Thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for :)

Just one more question regarding director app - wouldn't it be incompatible 
change if 0.0.0 semantic is changed in that way? Or you mean the new behavior 
could be switched on/off somehow? I'm wondering what would be considered as 
default in that case (and why)?

Adopting "I feel lucky" is worth discussing - it seems as a very nice feature. 
I'm sure that if you are kind enough to help clarifying the "unknowns", it 
would be really easy to find a volunteer about the patch.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Pascal Rapicault
Sent: jeudi 13 octobre 2011 16:53
To: P2 developer discussions
Subject: Re: [p2-dev] Unexpected resolution failure


On 2011-10-13, at 10:02 AM, Todorova, Katya wrote:


Could be a stupid question but how could you "ask" the planner to resolve an 
open range? As far as I've seen the planner source you could pass as a root IU 
only an exact IU contained by a repo?
            Look at IProvisioningChangeRequest#addExtraRequirements


If you could provide a link to "I feel lucky" bug or/and to the corresponding 
source it would be extremely helpful.
            Ian created a branch for this 
(http://git.eclipse.org/c/equinox/rt.equinox.p2.git/log/?h=irbull/luckyButton), 
but I don't have it checked out. Here is the piece of code I provided to him 
for integration http://pastebin.com/wB5Rbibg



Do you think this is going to be supported in director app in future?
            If someone provides a patch, yes.


I'll update the bug but currently I don't have enough information (e.g a 
workaround, components handling it, etc).
Since 0.0.0 interpretation could be confusing to others as it was to me and I 
didn't find it officially documented, I would like to include in the report a 
clear statement on this as well.


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pascal Rapicault
Sent: jeudi 13 octobre 2011 15:35
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Subject: Re: [p2-dev] Unexpected resolution failure

Makes sense.
This is currently not supported by the director app.
The necessary logic to add to support this is very similar to the one I did for 
the "I feel lucky" button. You need to do a first call to the planner with open 
ranges so the resolver figures out the most appropriate solution and then 
another call to get all the final plan with all the properties.

If bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359902 is related to this, 
please update it with the relevant information.


On 2011-10-13, at 9:17 AM, Todorova, Katya wrote:


>From user stand point I expect to install the highest "resolvable" version 
>that is available in the repository, not the highest "exact". Motivation? 
>Since I don't specify an exact version,
any version would be acceptable for me but I implicitly expect the highest 
(which could be resolved) to be preferred. I make an analogy here with OSGi 
import/export wiring when multiple
exported versions are available.

Currently "-installIU abc" tries to install the "exact" highest version and if 
its resolution fails, the whole installation fails. As Tobias suggested I could 
implement something on top of p2 -
for example I could traverse the repository on my own, sort available IUs by 
version in descendent order, look for the first resolvable in the list and then 
pass it to p2 engine.

Does the use case make more sense now?

So is there a way p2 director app to interpret 0.0.0 as version range instead 
of exact version and are you aware of scenarios that strictly rely on 0.0.0 = 
exact highest?

Thank you for your help,
Katya

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pascal Rapicault
Sent: jeudi 13 octobre 2011 14:32
To: P2 developer discussions
Subject: Re: [p2-dev] Unexpected resolution failure

In the case of the p2 director, doing "-installIU abc" (without specifying a 
version) is a shortcut for saying install the highest version available of this 
IU.

Could you please describe from a user point of view the behaviour you are 
trying to get for the director app?



On 2011-10-13, at 6:04 AM, Todorova, Katya wrote:

Thanks for the explanation, Tobias, I checked the bug comments as well 
(https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=359902) and it started getting 
clearer.
My confusion came from trying to map equinox and p2 resolvers behavior on 0.0.0.

Back on the technical stuff - I think version range would do for my use case.
Do you have any idea how to specify version range in director app? (curious if 
there is any documentation when p2 handles 0.0.0 as fixed version and when as 
range?)
What is the use case(s) of using 0.0.0 as fixed version?

Implementing my desired behavior outside p2 would mean re-implementing the 
planner :) I'm not sure I'd like to go in that direction. Just want to play 
around
with what's currently available and try to come up with a decent solution.

Thanks again,
Katya

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Oberlies, Tobias
Sent: jeudi 13 octobre 2011 11:35
To: P2 developer discussions
Subject: Re: [p2-dev] Unexpected resolution failure

Katya Todorova wrote:
It seems that 0.0.0 is interpreted as [1.0.1.201109261256,
1.0.1.201109261256] instead of [0.0.0, infinity) and p2 resolver doesn't
make an attempt to find a solution containing lower version.
Is that the expected behavior?

0.0.0 can be a version or a version range. 0.0.0 as version is a fixed version 
- the latest one available when querying a metadata repo, 0.0.0 as version 
range is an open version range.

You need to know what you are specifying (version vs. Version range) to know 
the semantics.

Regards
Tobias

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