[1] and [2] study Skype.  They mention that for cases where both peers
are behind NATs Skype uses a variation of STUN falling back to a
variation of TURN.  

[1] "An Experimental Study of the Skype Peer-to-Peer VoIP System"
Saikat Guha, Neil Daswani, Ravi Jain
IPTPS 2006

[2] An Analysis of the Skype Peer-to-Peer Internet Telephony Protocol
Salman A. Baset, Henning G. Schulzrinne

Cheers!
Thomas


On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 05:15:11PM -0700, David Barrett wrote:
> What's an acceptable setup time, and what are you currently seeing?  I'm
> working on a NAT layer and am seeing about 1600ms setup latency, which is
> higher than I'd like, but probably acceptable for my needs.
> 
> As for restricted NATs, nothing special needs to be done to connect them to
> other restricted, fullcone, or static IPs.  But they can't connect to
> symmetric NATs without some work.  I don't know how Skype handles it
> (actually, I haven't heard anything about the NAT traversal of Skype -- any
> idea what kind of connectivity it gets?), but I do know they use clients as
> relay servers, so unless they're doing some tricky symmetric work (which
> they probably are), they must be using relays.
> 
> -david
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > David
> > 
> >   Connection establishment time is a serious issue. I dont have data yet
> > but I know just by the simple tests I did that it is problematic.
> > Filling up the peer candidates address and caching them in regard to our
> > hash table will help tremendously as well as completely removing any
> > dependence on XMPP.
> > 
> >   How does Skype deal with restricted NAT? through relays?
> > 
> >   regards
> > 
> >   sylvio
> > 
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