Ok, so are you asking something like "what's the typical LAN size?"
That's a good question; I really have no idea. I'm not sure how such a thing could be measured directly because any number of nodes can sit behind a single IP. You could perhaps estimate it by perhaps figuring out the general ratio of servers to corporate users to home users, and then get data on the typical size of each. But I can't imagine that would produce a useful number. Stepping up a bit, what is the bigger question you're try to answer? If you know for certain that the answer was "7", what would you do with that information? Maybe we can find a way to answer the bigger question without getting lost in these details. -david hari sankar wrote: > Hi, > Ok, I shall rephrase the question to avoid confusion. Its MAN not WAN, > also same LAN/MAN. sorry. > Basically, I require some statistics like, "x% of all internet nodes > have at least y other internet nodes in the same LAN/MAN". > I want know the extent to which groups with high bandwidth connection > among each other ( in same LAN/MAN) exists in the internet. > > Sincerely, > Harisankar H > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: David Barrett <dbarr...@quinthar.com > <mailto:dbarr...@quinthar.com>> > To: theory and practice of decentralized computer networks > <p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com <mailto:p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com>> > Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 12:08:51 -0700 > Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] Fraction of internet nodes connected to > each other through LAN and WANs > I'm not sure if I understand the question, but wouldn't the answer > tautologically be 100%? > > In other words, aren't 100% of internet nodes connected to each > other through a series of LANs and WANs, by definition? > > Or you could state it as "100% of all internet nodes are connected > to 100% of all other internet nodes through LAN/WAN", with the > caveat that some interconnections are restricted by proxies, > firewalls, and temporary outages. > > I'm guessing this isn't the answer you're looking for, however. Can > you restate the question to resolve my confusion? > > -david > > hari sankar wrote: > > Hi, > I am working in the area of peer-to-peer search. I need to know > what fraction of internet nodes are connected to each other > through LAN and WANs also. 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