Glad to hear it's still going strong!  What's your sense as to what is
preventing more widespread adoption?

My sense is anonymity isn't enough of a differentiator.  Indeed, my
sense is the BitTorrent ecosystem is largely asleep, waiting for the
next major excuse to wake up and get back to work.  (Maybe SOPA will
be the spark that fuels the next wave of innovation.)

To my eye, the last major torrent innovation was streaming, and even
that doesn't seem to be particularly well adopted.  But otherwise,
torrent clients look like they have for the better part of a decade.
Even though bandwidth and storage have gone up dramatically, and now
there are tons of mobile platforms and playback devices, even easy
access to cloud services -- so easy that conceivably individual users
could provision their own streaming servers to act as cloud-accessible
torrent caches to stream to their iPads.

I'd like to see a dramatically new BitTorrent experience that is
focused on instant-on playback of video torrents that integrates
searching and streaming: just type in some keywords and it downloads
the best torrent from a variety of search engines and begins
streaming.  Even better if it offered seamless pre-downloading of
content via RSS, and better still if it includes some sort of
Pandora-style recommendation engine for audio content.  Maybe provide
a Chrome/Firefox plugin that lets you just "click Play" on IMDB or
TV.com and kick off that episode or what have you.

Anonymization is one part of that.  But it's only one part of it.  I
think there's just so much awesome stuff waiting to be built -- so
many data sources and open source libraries ready to be tied together
-- I'm wondering what the holdup is?  Anybody on this list could build
the above future.  Literally, it only takes one highly motivated
person to raise the bar and change the world forever.

-david

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Tomas Isdal <is...@cs.washington.edu> wrote:
> We are still actively developing OneSwarm, both general maintenance to
> keep out bugs that pop up, and implementing new features.
>
> Best place to follow development is to look at the GitHub project.
> https://github.com/CSEMike/OneSwarm
>
> You description is pretty accurate. Users can download files from
> within the network, those downloads are designed to be anonymous and
> be really hard for an adversary to track. If the desired file isn't on
> the network they can _manually_ fall back to download it as a "normal"
> torrent (which isn't anonymous) and chose to share it in the private
> network.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions and thank for "...OneSwarm
> is the the most interesting p2p project I've heard of in a very long
> time."!
>
> // Tomas
>
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: David Barrett <dbarr...@quinthar.com>
>> Date: Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM
>> Subject: [p2p-hackers] OneSwarm status?
>> To: theory and practice of decentralized computer networks
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>>
>> I think OneSwarm is the the most interesting p2p project I've heard of
>> in a very long time.  If I understand it correctly, OneSwarm is a
>> standard BitTorrent client that uses an anonymizing layer as a "read
>> through cache".  So it'll attempt to download the torrent anonymously
>> from other OneSwarm nodes, only falling back on the (non-anonymous)
>> torrent if needed.  I think it's a very clever design, and I'm curious
>> if anybody has any recent, real-world experience with it?  Is the
>> project still moving forward?
>>
>> And perhaps most importantly: how long until this is built in to one
>> of the major torrent clients and enabled by default?
>>
>> -david
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