* Richard Dice ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Traditionally, Perl tends to enter a corporate IT infrastructure and > environment in a bottom-up fashion.
I agree, and my personal experience is that there is an issue in companies when Perl gets ``too big for its boots'', this is illustrated by the situation where many of the programmers have seen the power of Perl and want to use it for the next big project, the CTO in this fictional example will disagree as he has just been reading a great report (probably sponsored by Sun) on how EJB's will save the world. Now the Perl guys don't have anything to reply to this with. I think this is one thing ``P5EE'' can address. For the record, at CTO level I do not believe it is enough to simply say "Hey, its cool, we can grab some modules off CPAN and hack something together that does the same as beans". Other peoples mileage may vary. > In an age where A and B are components in > an enterprise framework, I want for Perl to work there, too. I think I tried to express this when I said that Perl/P5EE should work with .Net etc. But you are right in bringing this up, taking messaging as an example, the theoretical standard messaging system API may need to be general enough to have a perl based perl-rpc solution as a backend and also a JMS (Java Message Server) backend as well. I really don't know how possible this is yet, but being a Perl project we should aim to be all things to all men, "enterprise programming glue" and "enterprise programming language of choice", if we fail at the later we can always claim we only set out to do the first ;-) > evangelise to CTOs that > they should use a Perl framework rather than a Java one Evangelism at CTO level is something we cannot really address, we just need to make sure the Perl ``enterprise level'' offering is good enough so that when the ground troops come up against the stereotypical CTO I've created, they have the ammunition. IIRC, Java tried to use community based evangelism in the early days of Java, i believe this has failed, after all I have never seen Java programmers holding 100 dollar/50 quid (for 3 days) conferences. > Perhaps my position is reactionary and defensive, but this is my concern. > If you represent greed, I'll represent fear. :-) It's a deal, and I'm going to hold you to it. Thanks for the quick feedback. Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/
