oh, the joys of working late at the weekend....

( a little disclaimer just in case anyone thinks I make a habit of
reading mailing lists at 10:00 on a saturday night. )

On 27 Oct 2001, at 12:40, Stephen Adkins wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I propose the following definitions and computing platforms for
> the P5EE initiative. The main thing I wanted to do was propose
> the range of platforms that P5EE-compliant software should run
> on (see at bottom).  Thoughts are welcome.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> The following definitions are excerpted from
> 
>    http://www.officevision.com/pub/p5ee/enterprise.html
> 
> Definitions
> 
> Simply put, something in the realm of computing becomes an "Enterprise" 
> thing when it is worthy of and suitable for use in large enterprises. 
> For the purposes of this P5EE specification, the following definitions 
> will be used. 
> 
>  * Enterprise System - Enterprise Software running on an Enterprise 
>    Platform 
>  * Enterprise Solution - same as an Enterprise System, but emphasizing 
>    that the system solves an Enterprise Problem 
>  * Enterprise Software - Software that solves an Enterprise Problem 
>    (rather than a departmental one) and that is written with an 
>    Enterprise Software Architecture 
>  * Enterprise Software Architecture - A Software Architecture which 
>    allows software to exhibit all of the attributes of an Enterprise 
>    System when run on an Enterprise Platform 
>  * Enterprise Platform - A set of computing and networking resources 
>    which enable installed Enterprise Software to exhibit the full 
>    attributes of an Enterprise System (most often referring to 
>    availability, scalability, and reliability) 
> 
> The following platform descriptions are excerpted from
> 
>    http://www.officevision.com/pub/p5ee/platform.html
> 
> The following computing platforms are defined. 
> They are not all Enterprise Platforms. 
> However, they are all platforms which P5EE software should run on. 
> This is because P5EE software will often be developed, demonstrated, 
> evaluated, or even operated initially on these platforms.

I'm Not sure I really agree that the full p5ee should run on all of 
these. ( some elements of it might ).
I would have thought that p5ee would have supported both 
asynchronous and synchronous activity. Quite how you would do 
this with normal CGI I don't know. I could be wrong, but I always 
assumed that a broken http connection would result in a termination
of the application.

To some degree I think it depends on the choice of a base 
architecture. I've heard mention of CORBA and mod_perl so far.

If mod_perl were chosen, then I  would have thought it more likley 
that at least a two tier web serving architecture would be in place,
with one tier doing the static stuff, and another doing the perl based 
work.

( see: http://perl.apache.org/tuning/  )

Of course, two tier web serving isn't necessary, but I think it would 
be desirable.

Perhaps a more reasonable strategy ( for a full install ) would be 
root access on a single box?

Cheers,

Steve.

> The software may be upgraded to an Enterprise Platform at any time. 
> This will be one of the major advantages of the P5EE Software 
> Architecture: its support for a variety of Platforms. 
> 
> Platform Overview
> 
>  * CGI only, Single System (unprivileged) - a typical ISP/web-hosting 
>    arrangement. 
>  * CGI, Single System (unprivileged) - a typical way that a corporate 
>    user or university student can set up the platform without getting 
>    system administrators involved. This differs from the "CGI only" 
>    because the user also has the privilege to run daemons and schedule 
>    jobs.
>  * Single User mod_perl, Single System (unprivileged) - a typical 
>    way a developer will do development 
>  * mod_perl, Single System (unprivileged) - like the "CGI, Single 
>    System (unprivileged)" system but higher performance and more 
>    resource-intensive 
>  * mod_perl, Single System (privileged) - a simple, entry-level 
>    production platform. This has only a single, mod_perl-enabled 
>    Apache server to handle static and dynamic requests. 
>  * Mirrored (unprivileged) - the closest thing to a highly-available 
>    system that can be set up by non-privileged users. Data is 
>    replicated in near-real time between a collection of machines, 
>    and any of the participating mirrors may be used to access the 
>    same applications and data. Each of the mirrors may choose to be 
>    implemented as one of the other platforms. This also supports the 
>    detachment of mirrored systems from the network (i.e. laptops) 
>    and later reattachment and synchronization. 
>  * Dual Redundant System - entry-level Enterprise platform, offering 
>    simple failover from the primary to the backup secondary system 
>    (no load-balancing) 
>  * Single Site Cluster - typical Enterprise platform, offering 
>    virtually unlimited scalability through load-balancing and 
>    redundancy of every computing resource 
>  * Multi-Site Cluster - global Enterprise platform, offering 
>    everything a Single-Site Cluster offers in terms of scalability, 
>    but with the added advantage that multiple sites dispersed 
>    geographically may handle regional load and guard against major 
>    regional catastrophes like earthquake, nuclear attack, etc. 
> 
> 
> 


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