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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=621416 Balint Cristian <cristian.bal...@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |cristian.bal...@gmail.com --- Comment #26 from Balint Cristian <cristian.bal...@gmail.com> 2011-01-31 16:32:35 EST --- (In reply to comment #22) > Strictly speaking no, but I would prefer if we had that right. Better to try > for it. Hello Folks, - Agree with booth, including lets try, but as last time with OGP and as for now there are some benevolent logic they might wont agree, for some good reason I can only explain that but only for "modify" paragraph. - that dataset is about some "ephemeres" and math like constants, its very wrong if people just modify those datas for potential forks, its like I would try some wierd math were PI is 3.15 instead if 3.14 and try even convince the world its just a brand new view on "geometries" and nothing is wrong. - OGP done that database and mark with their lets say "brand/name" and their credibility as surveyors (as Fedora guarantee certain things with their packages with their brand), things are done in years by precise geodetical surveys on-field and many calculus (many are done in colaboration with really paranoic and difficult governments), so any changes are made there for any reason as they also try state even in the very license is subject to alter "reality" for which EPSG cannot be responsable, and such changes are only for the damage of any community. They want by this way make sure any project is compatible with any other distinct project in resulting outputs in any future, like the example with PI constant. If at M.I.T. PI=3.14 at other universities should be too ! Would this change a bit optics of RH legal on this ? Regarding commercial (just guesses for very good reasons): - big and mogul companies like ESRI (the M$ equiv in GIS) would love to just bypass "the surveying stage of ephemers" for their products, but also would never give 1 cent to EPSG effort (I am confident in that). So EPSG decided that its free for "free" projects but not for ESRI or others who demonstrated ignorance at all during the time. They should go nicely on-field, pay their surveyors (even vaccinate them for dangerous places like those ones from Africa,Asia or Amazon) for lets say like 10 years and gather proper dataset on they own, then sell it just as they want. Unfortunately opensource GIS world is at a level with many things still to be done, but, by far cannot afford even to atempt to make a proper EPSG-like dataset without "borrowing" datas.And just from pure surveys (on field would be cleanest effort), also its not at the level to choke fingers with many governments to grant access to such datas, and even license it to a crowd of peoples as they would wish ! In worst case, without EPSG we can forget "all" about Fedora and any of opensource GIS packages, to mention a list of: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GIS (and counting 10x more very interesting ones on the internet), so without EPSG _all_ those can be rendered outside of Fedora. Google highly popularised GIS around the world just by 'google-eath' there are the smart-phones, GPSs and cool navigation devices just spread in last 2-3 years, there are also the geotagged photos and so on, we would be lousy ones to skip these events out. I hope Volker to get a favorable answer back (I am doubting a bit), anyway I try catch up with Him see how could I help, some smooth and clean strategy is needed with OGP, but changing their optics will be hard. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug. _______________________________________________ package-review mailing list package-review@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/package-review