Am Dienstag, 5. Januar 2016, 09:23:22 CET schrieb Jos Poortvliet: > > So like it or not, but I as a Owncloud user still get to decide whether I > > use your recommendation, or just dismiss it. At least the Debian > > packagers do not seem to be that vocal on their blogs about upstream > > decisions they dislike. > I didn't mean to change your mind - I hoped to warn ownCloud users in > general and perhaps kick off some thinking at distro's to avoid them > becoming, well, the thing to run a container on. > > Of course, you have to consider that, like me, a bad scenario. And a likely > one. Perhaps you don't care, or don't think it will happen. In that case, > ignore me.
Okay, for now, I think it is not of much use to discuss the details here. I do think there we have a fundamental common ground in viewpoint that the current situation can be improved upon, lots, yet there is also a fundamental difference: I do not believe in thinks happening and all I can do is to react to it. I do believe in creating things they way I like it. Or if not creating myself, choosing the creation of others I like to use and support. Docker, containers, or the next hype: How often did IT industry change between a kind of central computing in main frames or recently clouds, to distributed computing in lots of different PCs – with possibly HP´s The Machine and other similar approaches changing the paradigm again in some time – in its history so far? How often many people thought that this is the final end in itself? However I am not into predicting the future. Yet, I am into shaping it. If I assess what path I want to choose here, for me its a path that utilizes a central source for all stuff I install onto my server. I will see how far along I get with it. So far I got away with it quite okayish and I have been pleased with the work Debian´s owncloud packaging team. If I only went with trends in my life, I wouldn´t have chosen a vegan life style – 20 years ago. I still hope that at some time Owncloud upstream and distro packagers can work more closely together again – maybe there is a common ground between using distro infrastructure and using Github, Open Build Service and other key points where goals and needs differ. But I am also wise enough that I can only choose my actions and how I create my world. Not decide what others shall do. Creating always starts within myself. Thank you, -- Martin _______________________________________________ Packaging mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.owncloud.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging
