Matthias:

Welcome to the PF community!

I think we may need to slow things down a bit.

You have lots of questions, and that is good.  But I don't want to get the cart 
before the horse.

The type of questions you are asking are very general and apply to NAC as a 
whole, in short this is the kind of stuff one would ask if they were hiring an 
integrator to do the install for them. It seems like what you are looking for 
is assistance architecting a solution and not so much an answer to a specific 
question.

Inverse does monitor this list and they very often give out free tech support 
but what you are asking is a bit much for free.  Inverse will very happily work 
with you and get you setup with an awesome NAC solution, but it is not a free 
service, they have to eat too. : )

I do not work for Inverse.  I am; however, a PF enthusiast and I happen to 
enjoy helping people get PF setup in their environment.

We can have a conversation off-list and perhaps I can offer you some general 
NAC and PF assistance.  Once you have progressed to needing help with a 
specific issue or configuration then we can come back to the list.

I can also meet you on the PF IRC channel on freenode if you like. Just \join 
#packetfence I'll idle there as much as I can. I do have a full time job so I 
can't chat away all day, but I'll help if I can. You should be able to find me, 
I'm Elcrapocrew.

To be clear: I am not selling anything. I am offering my help free of charge as 
a professional courtesy from one IT guy to another. 

Attn. Inverse / List Mods:  Please let me know if I am speaking out of turn 
here about the nature of requests on the list.  I have been a member for a 
while and I am only speaking out of my experience.  If I am wrong please accept 
my apologies.

Jake Sallee
Godfather of Bandwidth
System Engineer
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor
WWW.UMHB.EDU

900 College St.
Belton, Texas
76513

Fone: 254-295-4658
Phax: 254-295-4221

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From: Matthias Busch <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PacketFence-users] New to packetfence, a few questions

Hey Damiano,

I really hope this will be posted correctly. I find this mailing list
very confusing. Is there no way to disable all mails except replies to
own posts? And I could not find any button where to "reply" to a post...

nevermind, hopeing doing it by hand works...

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LDAP / MySQL / PERL Modules:

I understand the basics of how PF is built. I probably did not express
my thoughts precise and clear enought... Also, I probably lack the right
terms yet...

I realise there is a accounting feature. I was thinking I do not have to
deal with accounting at all, there is no need to involve money or time
credit or something similar.

the term users is problematic. without looking I can think of three
types of "users". to make matters simple, lets forget the third type.
the remaining two types are people managing packetfence. users able to
login to the webportal and do stuff there. like admin. lets call those
types of users "operators"

the other type are people trying to get on the network. my students.
lets call them "customers"

I am assuming the "operators" are put in the DB and there is a way to
add and edit them. the user admin exists and has a password, so it must
be implemented. I dont know if these operators are the same type/same
access which I will need later for having HR manage some aspects of PF

Now, my customers need a place to be. I realise there are many many ways
to skin this cat. However, many inbuilt auth sources are not suited for
my needs. I am guessing most people in a similar position to mine would
put the users in Active Directory, something which I can not do.
The next best thing would be to put them in LDAP. Also, I am aware of
the combination of freeradius and ldap. I dont mind putting the
users/customers in MySQL if freeradius will work with that as well...

However, what I am really wondering about is how do I manage my
"customers" in LDAP or SQL or whatever... Do I have to supply my own
webfrontend/managementUI or does packetfence come with some kind of
ability to manage customers in LDAP or SQL or ... ?

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Of course I would like to use the internal freeradius. I dont know how
far it is pre-defined/setup.
My first experiences with freeradius were not great and I am by no means
a pro with it. I hope I can get it to work with PF.
In PF, I know it is running but when I enter freeradius config in the
admin webinterface, it wants to setup realm/domain, I dont know, have
yet to read up on where to go from there.
But first I need to figure out where to put my users :)

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Self service. Is probably easy when the customers are working and I
could really test around. We'll see. Good to know you are optimistic...

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I know about the logs. I was just stating why I am doing all this and
where it is supposed to lead and that I am aware of what needs to be
done besides getting PF to work...
But your info was valuable so know I know it is Log4perl...

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Question 2 about the critical errors...
What I wanted to say (badly apparently) is, does my existing networks,
my plans and packetfence in any way cause someone concern? does it
conflict? are there red flags which should make me abort my project
before proceeding? ( for example, if packetfence would be incapable of
working with ipv4, someone should tell me "dude, you realise packetfence
is for ipv6 only, what you want to do is impossible!" )

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WIFI:
I know wifi/wpa2-ent and 802.1x can be a bitch. I saved your link and
will read when appropriate. thanks.
If I come across anyother / easier way to implement the neccesary
security, Ill gladly back down...

A captive portal might work, but honestly, I rather use that as a
secondary way to auth for the devices incapable of wpa2-ent but not the
only way. I hate captive portals in wifi. and my customers arent guests
or visitors, they live there. I dont want to ask them to auth on a
captive portal every few hours. or worse, set it to stay for 6 months
and have people fake MAC addresses to circumvent security...

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Inline deployment:
yeah, it would make many things much simpler. But its not an option
VLAN is the way to go for me...

PF is great when I can get it to work. I hope I can. If not, I have no
idea how to do what I need to do except find another NAC, which is
probably too expensive, or install another Windows Server instance,
setup radius, 802.1x only, and shell out for 200 CALs for a radius
server. I dont want to!

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Development:
It is good when the development is going strong and there are frequent
updates.
Thanks for warning me about the upgrade problems. good to know!

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Xen-Server 6.5:
I dont understand? Where is the problem? xen uses bridges...

In xen, you have eth0 and eth1. do not setup vlans!
Give the vm both networks as is
connect eth0 to switchport 10, set VLAN to untagged in appropriate VLAN
(lets say VLAN 1)
connect eth1 to switchport 11, set VLAN to tagged where needed (lets say
VLAN 10,11,12)

in your vm, setup eth0 as needed, it will be connected to the VLAN 1
setup eth1 with vlans, eth1.10 - eth1.11 - eth1.12

your vm will tag the packets, your xen will bridge the connection to
physical eth1
and the switch will understand the tagged packets...

Maybe you misunderstood? my PF will use two phyiscal interfaces of the
server, not one.




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