What you are describing sounds similar to what we are doing.

PF works great with routed networks and depending on the details of your VPN 
connection I think it should work in your situation.

I have never setup a PF deployment like the one you are talking about however 
if your VPN is setup in a point-to-point configuration then it will very likely 
work.

Logically speaking the packets from the satellite locations are encapsulated 
and sent to your central site. Once there the encapsulation is stripped, they 
are routed and the replies are encapsulated and sent back.  If this is the case 
the presence of the VPN tunnel is invisible to PF and the deployment should be 
the same as any other routed deployment.

If my guess about they way your VPN is setup is correct then I see no reason 
why it would not work.

I would love to hear how your deployment goes, good luck!

Jake Sallee
Godfather of Bandwidth
System Engineer and Security Specialist
University of Mary Hardin-Baylor
WWW.UMHB.EDU

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From: Erik via PacketFence-users <packetfence-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
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To: packetfence-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Erik
Subject: [PacketFence-users] VLAN isolation and routed networks

EXTERNAL Exercise Caution

Hi,

I have recently begun to investigate PacketFence to see if it can be
used under the circumstances I am faced with.
What I have found in the documentation sofar is rather little and tells
me that routed networks are possible, but the example does not match my
circumstances. I am guessing it is just an example and other options are
available. I will be building a test site as soon as the necessary
equipment arrives.

Hope I can pick your brains in the mean time.


So the circumstances are these.

There are several separate locations that are connected to one central
location via VPN (OpenVPN).
Every location has their own local network and none of the address
ranges overlap. Locations can talk to each other because the central
location, where the VPN server is, routes traffic between locations.

Every location is going to be split up into a trusted and untrusted LAN.
There is a local firewall on each location that can manage this, but I
am looking for a solution that can be managed at the central location.

So I thought of PacketFence and wondered if it might fit. The general
idea is that the switches on each location access the PacketFence at the
central location for authentication and that PacketFence tells them if
the client can be authenticated, into which VLAN they must be put.

The switches can communicate with PacketFence at the central location
via the VPN. The clients cannot, because by default they are blocked by
the firewall.

I do not need or want PacketFence to provide DNS or DHCP. Once the local
switch has put the client on the correct VLAN and has allowed the port
the client is on to forward traffic, the clients will get DHCP and DNS
from the local servers.

So basically, PacketFence will not needed to know about the local
networks. It will only have to authenticate credentials and let the
switch know what VLAN to use. The switches will use 802.1x for those
clients that support it and MAC authentication for those devices that don't.

I have used FreeRADIUS in the past with 802.1x and MAC authentication to
simply enable and disable switch ports. Back then the VLANs had been
fixed and defined on the switch. You either got access or you did not.
The current situation is similar with the notable exeption that now the
switch does not know the VLAN id beforehand and has to be told not just
whether to enable the port, but also in which VLAN to put it.


What do you think am I barking up the wrong tree here?

thanks for your time,
Erik van Linstee


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