Doug,

You are correct, it answers one interpretation of the question.

The question was "What did NVFS buy us?  Seems like its just breaking a lot
of stuff...".

IMHO, the question was not "what was intended", but "what did we get".

We got a non-determinant and unreliable implementation. I'm all for reliable
non-volatile storage, but I'll trust NVFS as a non-volatile alternative, and
admit it has bought us something, when it is able to survive an unexpected
reset, which at this point is all too frequent.

BTW, backup software is not the only way to use SD cards, or other form of
non-volatile storage. Apps have always been able to read and write them
directly. NVFS tries to do this "automatically", but IMHO, gives us a false
sense of security by having us believe that our stuff is magically backed
up. NVFS does not (yet) do a deterministic job of "automatically" backing
stuff up. This is very important, if data state is important.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 2:11 PM
To: Palm Developer Forum
Subject: Re: NVFS articles online


Jeffry

>Sorry Ben, but with great respect I must disagree and beat a dead horse.
>Your answer ignores the question.

It does not ignore the question -- it answers the question (IMHO).

>1) The SD card solved the non-volatile issue several years ago 

Only if people used backup software and regularly ran backups.  The NVFS
implementation "backs up" to non-volatile storage with every database close,
call to DmSyncDatabase, etc.  Some of my software includes automatic backups
(of
my app databases) to SD cards when present in part because people are not
good
about taking responsibility for backup themselves.

I think the theory of NVFS-like feature was great and is a welcome
improvement
in my book.  I think the only problem is there wasn't a beta period where us
developers could help test compatibility issues prior to publicly shipping
devices.

It would be nice if they issued a ROM update for the T5 to address some of
the
issues though.

Doug

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