Nathaniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 01:04:52PM -0500, Mark Eichin wrote:
>> It gets points for being all-python ... but how does it differ from xmove?
>
> Excellent question!  Off the top of my head, one difference is that I
> wrote xpra, while I've never heard of xmove.  That makes them
> significantly different to me, but perhaps not so much to others :-).
> Thanks for the tip.
>
> Looking at it, one thing I notice is that xmove has been unmaintained
> since ~1997.  Two consequences come to mind:
>   -- X has changed a lot since then -- in particular, modern apps all
>      use the Render extension for display.  They also have fallbacks,
>      but IIUC using them means either losing things like aliased
>      fonts, or else paying huge additional round-trip penalties to do
>      client-side antialiasing (exactly what you don't want in the
>      remote-app case).  I don't know that this would be an issue for
>      everyone, though.
>   -- The above isn't going to get fixed, nor will any other fixes get
>      made (except for the patches the debian maintainer seems to be
>      shepherding, which is nice but they look pretty minimal).
>      Which... isn't a problem if xmove is already perfect, or perfect
>      with respect to your uses.  Since I've never used xmove, I have
>      no idea whether it has annoying aspects, or what those might be
>      :-).

Your points above are excellent, and I hope you'll put them in xpra's
README or some other documentation.

> It seems *plausible* xmove has annoying aspects, since very few people
> use it or have heard of it as compared to, say, screen, but... have
> you used it?  What bugs you about it, if anything?

I have to admit that I've only ever pointed to it as a solution, I've
not actually had the problem :-)  I think part of the issue there is
that pretty much everyone who uses ssh these days ends up wanting
screen, whereas most of the people using X are using it for local
applications and the problem doesn't come up.


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