Hi Jacob,

I’m guessing that came with the Wordpress template in use. It’s not a very 
accessible implementation as it’s done by the use of an image.

-Thomas

> On 2 Mar 2017, at 15:52, Jake Lucky <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> We actually liked the solution shown on the PatternFly blog, with the word 
> "optional" overlayed over the right side of the form field in a de-emphasized 
> gray font,  but we didn't know how exactly to implement it. I know I have 
> implemented this look myself in the past on other sites, but we were hoping 
> PatternFly had something built-in for this after seeing it on the blog.
> 
> https://blog.patternfly.org/required-fields/
> 
> <image.png>
> 
> Jacob Lucky
> [email protected]
> 
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Matt Carrano <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> Thanks for raising this issue.  As it so happens, I'm currently in the 
> process of re-writing our forms guidelines on PatternFly and I agree that our 
> current recommendations are somewhat incomplete.  I welcome any input or 
> ideas you have and I also would be interested in seeing how others may have 
> addressed this problem.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 5:48 AM, Andres Galante <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Jonathan, I completely agree it seems silly to mark almost every line with 
> the *.
> 
> Using "optional" as a placeholder brings some undesired side effects. for 
> example, if a user wants to have a placeholder as a hint, then the optional 
> will have a conflicts. Also if the input is complete the placeholder would 
> disappear. Therefore we can't recommend using optional as a placeholder as a 
> universal solution for patternfly.
> 
> Maybe we should revisit this recommendation and try to find a better solution 
> for mostly mandatory fields.
> 
> Would you be able to work on it and propose a solution?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrés
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Jonathan Yu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey PatternFlyers!
> 
> We have a form that consists mostly of required fields, with a few optional 
> fields.  It seems silly to mark all required fields with an asterisk (*) as 
> it's 80%+ of the fields, but I can't figure out the correct style to get the 
> behavior we want.
> 
> I was using <span class="text-muted">(Optional)</span> to indicate these 
> fields, but the PatternFly Forms guidance recommends against it:
> 
> Required field: Required fields should be denoted with an * (asterisk) symbol.
> Due to responsiveness issues, we do not recommend labeling optional fields 
> with “(optional)”
> 
> See the Design tab of 
> http://www.patternfly.org/pattern-library/forms-and-controls/forms/#/design 
> (aside: why can't we link directly to the Design tab?)
> 
> I came across a blog, which recommends using something that looks somewhat 
> like a placeholder: https://blog.patternfly.org/required-fields/ - Design A1, 
> which is labelled as the Recommended way to do things. Does anyone know what 
> CSS class I need for this? (the little "optional" text in the inputs there)
> 
> <Optional-Design.png>
> 
> Currently we're using standard input placeholders, but I don't think this is 
> the best use of them (they seem better used for syntax hints) - see the 
> Middle Initial input:
> 
> <Screenshot from 2017-03-01 15-15-09.png>
> ​​
> "Greeting" is also optional but I'm not sure the best way to indicate that?
> 
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> 'n raves
> 
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