I'm not sure if there's any harm other than the widget moving around unexpectedly. But to Matt's point the use case for a modal would be one where the user should not be trying to interact with the base page. I would agree with updating PatternFly's modal documentation and possibly exploring a separate pattern for a moveable dialog.
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Mike Amburn <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m curious… what’s the harm in allowing modals to be moved? > > - allowing movement doesn’t alter the state of either the modal window or > the background > - no harm for 95% of the time when a user wouldn’t need to see information > in the background > - great benefit for the 5% that do > - keeps the info displayed in the modal focused on the 95% with a > workaround for the 5% > > No strong feelings either way, just thinking it through. > > > On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Liz Clayton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Matt Carrano <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> It's an interesting question, Greg. IMO, the reason for using a modal >>> dialog should be to focus the user's attention on completing the task at >>> hand before doing something else in the UI. So in working from that >>> premise, it begs the question of why someone needs the dialog to be >>> movable. If the concern is that it's covering content on the parent screen >>> that the user needs in completing the task, then it seems like a modal is >>> either the wrong solution or that information should be available from >>> within the dialog. >>> >> +1 >> >>> >>> I'm also interested in what others think about this. I wouldn't be in >>> favor of making PatternFly modals movable unless there is a use case >>> justification that we can point to. >>> >> >> I guess if any of the dialogs warranted being modeless >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialog_box#Modeless> instead, then >> allowing them to move would make sense. If not, then I agree that they >> shouldn't need to move. >> >> It might be helpful to have some documentation for the "modal" widget in >> Patternfly, that offered some usage best practices and clarify terms >> (modal, modeless, dialog, overlay...) I found this little writeup useful: >> https://uxplanet.org/5-essential-ux-rules-for-dialog-design- >> 4de258c22116#.q1fizexrl . >> >> Liz C. >> >> >> >>> Matt >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Greg Sheremeta <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> We recently implemented Patternfly styling on our modal dialogs, and >>>> instantly received a bug [1] about them no longer being draggable. >>>> According to a quick search, bootstrap's modals do not support dragging, >>>> but that functionality could be added with jquery-ui [2]. According to [3], >>>> it's not a great idea. >>>> >>>> oVirt is quite modal-dialog heavy, so I can see why users would want >>>> this. We are in the planning stages of moving away from having so many >>>> dialogs, so I'm not terribly worried about it. But I did think it was a >>>> good idea to ask the list. >>>> >>>> So, what do people think about draggable modals? >>>> >>>> Best wishes, >>>> Greg >>>> >>>> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1434048 >>>> [2] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27120579/jquery-dragg >>>> able-with-bootstrap-modal-scroller-strange-behaviour >>>> [3] http://ux.stackexchange.com/questions/81134/should-modal >>>> -dialogs-be-movable >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Greg Sheremeta, MBA >>>> Red Hat, Inc. >>>> Sr. Software Engineer >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PatternFly mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matt Carrano >>> Sr. Interaction Designer >>> Red Hat, Inc. >>> [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PatternFly mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PatternFly mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly >> >> > > > -- > Mike Amburn Dixon > Product Manager, Integrated Solutions BU > M: 919-818-1201 <(919)%20818-1201> > > > _______________________________________________ > PatternFly mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly > > -- Allie Jacobs UXD calendar <https://www.google.com/calendar/b/1/[email protected]&ctz=America/New_York>
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