Apologies to the PDC crew: Sean-Paul Correll, Panda Security threat
researcher will be on Securabit on 4/7 to discuss the report. +2 on Jack's
recommendation on Brian Krebs. Brian was on Securabit episode 52 discussing
the crimeware.

In addition to directly stealing the money, trojaned machines are being used
to proxy attacks on FI. I also agree with Tim about the under reporting of
breaches due to trojans. Most non-security people still thinking of viruses
as porn pop-ups.

Bart

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Bugbear <[email protected]> wrote:

> +1 on Jack's recommendation of Brian Krebs
>
> I saw this come down on twitter today
>
> http://www.pandasecurity.com/homeusers/media/press-releases/viewnews?noticia=10116
>
> Just note the source - AV companies have everything to gain from FUD
>
> Problem I see with any stats regarding such compromises. is Companies
> often will not report the breach. Even states with Breach notification
> laws often do not require disclosure of the Company to the public.
> Combine that with the fact that such legislation only covers
> notification of specific data (i.e. PI) and there are 40 something
> different variations in different states, I think there isn't a chance
> of getting an accurate representation of the issue we are facing.
>
> But I will end my rant here
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Jack Daniel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Brian Krebs has done a good job of reporting on this issue, see his
> > blog at http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/, he even has a "Target: Small
> > Business" section with numerous posts on the topic, that's at
> > http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/category/smallbizvictims/
> >
> > Short version of this situation: Most small biz are no more tech savvy
> > than home users, but don't have the financial account protections of
> > individuals, and usually have more in the bank than an individual- so
> > they're a great and vulnerable target.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --
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> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Arnaud <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I'm looking for information security statistics as it pertains to small
> >> businesses. There's one statistic specifically that I read recently
> along
> >> the lines of small businesses having money stolen through the use of
> >> keystroke loggers on the principal banking PC and the hacker initiating
> a
> >> bank transfer. Can't remember where i saw it though. Links to any
> articles
> >> relating to current statistics would be appreciated.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Arnaud-
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