On 17 September 2010 22:50, Nils <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> If you are monitoring a trunk link with many VLANs you are basically
> seeing all the traffic plus the VLAN tags
> I'm dealing quite a lot with VLANs in an enterprise environment and the
> part I'm not getting here is the "hopping VLANs" part.
> mh, I think we need to talk about this in person at Brucon. One problem
> might be me not being a native speaker.
> .....and sorry for mistaking you for Paul  :-)

Sure, lets talk about it over a drink. Anyone else coming to Brucon
and want to chime in feel free.

Robin

> Nils
>
> Am 17.09.2010 16:51, schrieb Robin Wood:
>> On 17 September 2010 08:09, Nils <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>  I'm still not quite sure what Paul is aiming for but my take on this
>>> is, just provide a trunk link to the virtual machines and let the
>>> system's driver take care of the 802.1q tagged packets. Then you can
>>> handle a bunch of VLANs on a single system and see how you can
>>> manipulate them.
>>> You would need a 802.1q capable switch for the trunk link though.
>> Its not Paul, its me and what I want to do is to experiment with
>> setting up and sniffing VLANs. Things like, can I hop VLANs easily, if
>> I put a sniffer at point X what can I see, what about point Y?
>>
>> If I can do this in a VM lab then it is much easier to do than to do
>> it in the physical world. So I want to get the VirtualBox internal
>> switch/router to handle 802.1q packets.
>>
>> Does that make sense?
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>> Nils
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2010 7:08 PM, Carlos Perez wrote:
>>>> for voiphopper and other 802.1q I go physical, for jumping segments 
>>>> attacking routing protocols and other stuff with ESX I can do 802.1q in 
>>>> the virtual switches and use the physical one in conjunction
>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Robin Wood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 16 September 2010 16:32, Carlos Perez <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> righ now I have an old Cisco 3550 for playing with that, best bet would 
>>>>>> be to get an old cisco, procurve, 3com ..etc from ebay
>>>>>> each vendor has it own twist on "Standard Protocols"
>>>>> How is best to tie that into a VM lab? Or do you just mean plug some
>>>>> physical hardware in to it and go from there? I've got enough machines
>>>>> kicking around that I could do a physical lab but space, noise and
>>>>> portability have prevented me from doing it so far.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Robin Wood wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16 September 2010 16:08, Matthew Manor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Have you tried Vyatta?  It can do most of what Cisco IOS can do but
>>>>>>>> virtually, including VLANs, and you can certainly run an entire lab of
>>>>>>>> VMs off of it.
>>>>>>> I've just had a quick look through it but can't tell if it would help
>>>>>>> or not. I want to put different machines in my VirtualBox lab onto
>>>>>>> different VLANs so I can experiment with them. Do you know if their
>>>>>>> software product would do that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Matt Manor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/16/10, Carlos Perez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Do you mean having a switch with 802.1q?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:03 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there any way to setup a VLAN environment in a virtual 
>>>>>>>>>> environment?
>>>>>>>>>> They are something I've never had much chance to play with and I'd
>>>>>>>>>> love to get it labbed up so I can. I know there are virtual systems
>>>>>>>>>> for running IOS images but don't think I could then hang a bunch of
>>>>>>>>>> VMs off those machines.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Preferably VirtualBox methods but any VM will do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pauldotcom mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pauldotcom mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
>
_______________________________________________
Pauldotcom mailing list
[email protected]
http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com

Reply via email to