Hi Josh,
This is Michael from the SANS Mailing list. Interesting post as usual. Could I 
send you a copy of my résumé for you to have a look at and share your thoughts.
Regards,
Mchael

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On Jan 31, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Josh More <[email protected]> wrote:

> A resume won't get you a job. You can certainly put some focus there, but you 
> need to consider it "necessary but not sufficient".  It is a story-telling 
> tool.  The stories you tell get you the job, the tool, by itself, does 
> nothing.
> 
> I've written up my process here:  
> http://www.starmind.org/2012/04/07/so-you-want-a-new-job-adapted-from-a-presentation/
>  , and the book based on this should be coming out this summer/fall. (Not 
> entirely certain about the schedule quite yet.)
> 
> Your questions are sorta answered in the resume section in the link above, 
> but to keep things in the thread...
> 
> 1) By all means, list community involvement. However, do so in a way that 
> optimizes for search engines and HR filters, but does not provide a wall of 
> acronyms that make people glaze over.  This can be hard and involve a lot of 
> parentheses.
> 
> 2) List conferences if you have nothing else to put in an education section. 
> The more active you've been, the better.
> 
> 3) Experience matters the most. Then lab experience. Then degrees.  Then 
> certifications. Aside from the resume header, which should show all pertinent 
> information in the top four centimeters, everything should be sorted by this 
> priority.
> 
> 4) Follow the two page rule unless you're a consultant.  Then aim for 10.  
> It's stupid, but the consulting world is heavily tilted in favor of project 
> exposure and long resumes make people look better. The employee world is the 
> exact opposite.
> 
> But really, even with the perfect resume, a bit of story-telling skill and 
> being able to work the process to your advantage is going to be far more 
> effective.
> 
> -Josh More
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Bacon Zombie <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I'm looking to move from Network/System Admin role into pure Security
>> and in the middle of updating my CV.
>> 
>> I would like to see if the hive mind has any opinion on what should
>> and should not go into a CV and should a CV for a Security Job be
>> different from a standard Tech CV.
>> 
>> Soon difference that come to mind are:
>> 
>> #> Do you list conferences you have attended and if so what section do
>> you list them under or do they deserve there own section.
>> 
>> #> Do you list projects and CTF.
>> 
>> #> Do you list that you are a member of your Hackerspace, DC or 2600
>> group and what do you put it under.
>> 
>> #> Do you follow the no more then 2 or 3 pages rule or has that
>> changes now since most people will read your CV via TXT/PDF/DOCX and
>> not a printout.
>> 
>> What are some thing really should include and also really should not
>> include on my CV.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> P.S : Just realised CV may not be a common term for all; CV =
>> Curriculum Vitae or Résumé.
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> BaconZombie
>> 
>> LOAD "*",8,1
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