I agree with the others.  SAQs A-D are reporting tools, not compliance
tools.  If an organization claims to be compliant, they must be compliant
with all aspects of PCI-DSS and, if applicable, PA-DSS as required by their
merchant agreement.

That said, if the organization is *truly* outsourcing *all* credit card
activities (i.e., no PAN and related data is passing through their systems
at all), their entire network is effectively out of scope.  If they are
doing this, there might not be anything you can claim under PCI to change
the situation and would be limited to using other contractual
arrangements.  It sounds to me, though, like they don't really understand
PCI, so if they are trying to out-of-scope their burden, they're doing it
poorly.

-Josh More


On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Jeff h <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a question I hope someone can answer regarding PCI.  We have a
> vender that we use that hosts an application.  The vender says they are a
> Level 4 merchant and use a third party for all credit card transactions. So
> they would have to fill out a SAQ C and have an external scan by an
> approved vender.
>
> Do they still have to abide by all PCI DSS requirements even if they are
> not spelled out in SAQ C, such as password length, reuse, and expiration?
>
> The vender has a document they describe their security controls and they
> do not even meet PCI DSS already lax standard of at least 7 character
> passwords. They claim that since they are level 4 they don't need to.
>
> My understanding was all requirements still apply even if it dosen't go
> through every single requirement in SAQ C they still have to check the box
> that says "I have read the PCI DSS and I recognize that I must maintain
> full PCI DSS compliance at all times"
>
> So who is correct?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
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