On 29 April 2013 15:57, Bacon Zombie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Robin,
>
> First think I thought of when I read your email was the step I had to go
> through to enable "raw" SATA access in ESXi.
>
> http://cyborgworkshop.org/2011/01/08/enabling-raw-sata-access-in-esxi-free/
>
> This could be handing for testing your theories since VMWare thinks it's
> dealing with a Virtual HD but it writing to a real disk you can disconnect
> and boot in another system like any other drive.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
The problem is I've not got the urge to test it, it was just a passing
thought that I wondered if anyone else had had or explored.

Robin


>
> On 29 April 2013 11:09, Robin Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I had this random thought last night that I don't have time to test out
>> so was wondering if anyone else knew the answer...
>>
>> When you create a disk in VirtualBox it lets you create it as a
>> dynamically growing one so that the file on host disk starts small but
>> grows as you write more data into it from the guest. If in the guest you
>> try to read areas of the disk which have not yet been created, for example
>> by using dd to clone the whole disk, what do you get from the areas which
>> haven't yet been created?
>>
>> I'd guess it would be either nulls or random stuff but just wondering. I
>> could lab it up but don't have time at the moment.
>>
>> What if you use direct disk write to write to the last sector? Does the
>> whole disk then get created on the host or does it do some smart
>> allocation? Or does it just crash?
>>
>> Does VMWare behave the same? Could checking this space be a way to try to
>> identify if you are in a VM? I know there are other, better, ways but the
>> more options you have the better.
>>
>> Robin
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