Excellent response Robin. I know you just helped me with a few ideas and I 
didn't even ask the question.

Thanks,

Frank


> On Dec 3, 2013, at 4:58 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 30 November 2013 13:43, Glen Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Any recommendations for a Linux tool-writing approach? I am more of a
>> scripting guy than a programmer but I want to take it to the next level.
>> 
>> For context, I need to write a few SANS gold papers for the Masters program
>> and want to author some Linux tools related to the papers I write (subjects
>> to be determined). I’m looking at this as an opportunity to improve my
>> intermediate Linux skills while also adding some programming skills. I’m
>> thinking of going with straight-up bash and maybe use some Python, Ruby or
>> Perl but I would love to get some ideas from some of you experts before
>> diving in. It would be great to learn how to make a UI that can run various
>> back-end scripts.
> 
> I've got a bit of experience here so hope this helps....
> 
> There are a few reasons I write tools:
> 
> To automate an existing manual process - Wifi Honey came from a video
> that Vivek did on SecurityTube where he talked about setting up a wifi
> honeypot but did it all by hand. All I did here was to automate that
> process.
> 
> To improve an existing automated process - CeWL is based on a set of
> one line bash scripts that I saw on PaulDotCom. I took the idea and
> fleshed it out into a larger app.
> 
> New ideas - These are fairly rare but I have had a few, Pat To Pass
> and PassPat were both ideas I had for ways to analyse passwords.
> 
> So I'd suggest looking around at what you and your colleagues do and
> see if you can find something that can either be automated or
> improved. Pick something in an area you are interested in even if you
> know nothing about it. Don't pick something in an area just because
> other people think it is cool, if you don't enjoy the subject you
> won't do a good job on it.
> 
> The tool can be iterative in its releases, the first version may only
> have fixed options and do just a single job but then you can flesh it
> out in the next few versions. If you think you might do this put a bit
> more effort into v1 so that it can be extended, or, make v1 just a
> throw away proof of concept so you don't mind when you bin all the
> code and just take the ideas into v2.
> 
> For the GUI, I'd pick an existing tool and add a GUI onto that rather
> than trying to write a tool and a GUI in one. The second approach will
> leave you trying to learn GUI writing stuff on top of the tool and
> you'll probably do half a job of both. Pick a tool that has a bunch of
> command line options and give people an easy way to select them. If
> you went for nmap for example, have macro buttons so with one click
> you could do "-PN -p 21,22,80,139,445". That would save a little bit
> of effort on the user's part. I like it when the GUI shows what the
> command line that they are going to run will be, it means I can use
> the GUI to learn how to use the CLI version.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
>> 
>> Glen Roberts, CISSP
>> @InternetGeneral
>> [email protected]
>> 
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