Gabor Like Gerald, I am uneasy with the use of the word "anticipated". We can ask Ofcom, but I am sure they will just point us to their regulatory requirements which use phrasing like "a master WSD must communicate to the WSDB the following information: .... The lower and upper frequency boundaries of the in-block emissions.... The maximum in-block EIRP spectral densities (in dBm/(0.2 MHz)) that the master WSD, and its associated slaves, actually radiate ....". So their regulatory requirements are for actual usage, not anticipated. It may be foolish for the group to agree charter text that says something different. Can we just delete the word "anticipated" in the new bullet 5? The word order could be changed to " Report spectrum usage to the white space database at a suitable granularity".
Andy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gerald Chouinard Sent: 15 April 2012 18:40 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [paws] charter update Gabor, I am wandering is the word "anticipated" will be good enough for OFCOM. You may want to verify with them. To establish a status of the spectrum usage in an area, the regulator will likely need the actual usage of this spectrum and not only its "anticipated" usage. My two cents ... Gerald -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, 13 April, 2012 16:31 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [paws] charter update Pete, Peter, There doesn't seem to be any objection to this charter update text on the list from the WG members. Could you guys take this charter proposal text to the iesg's telechat? Thanks, Gabor -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bajko Gabor (Nokia-CIC/SiliconValley) Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:02 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [paws] charter update Here's the charter update proposal text: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-paws-4.txt According to diff, the are 6 lines changed, including the update to the milestones. The main change is adding bullet point 5: " Report to the white space database anticipated spectrum usage at a suitable granularity." - Gabor -----Original Message----- From: ext Peter Saint-Andre [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:06 PM To: Bajko Gabor (Nokia-CIC/SiliconValley) Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [paws] charter update On 4/9/12 3:40 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Folks, > > There was long discussion on the list before the Paris F2F about the > newly surfaced Ofcom requirements, which require the master devices to > report back to the wsdb the spectrum chosen for operation. Since this > aspect is not captured in the current charter, during the F2F we > discussed how to capture those requirements and there was no objection > to a slight charter update. > > The tentative charter update text I showed in slide 7 of > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-paws-0.pptx had > one objection to the text added as a 5^th bullet point: "5. Report > back to the white space database use information, including the chosen > channels for operation and other relevant information", noting that > the result may be a chatty behavior in case of frequency hopping (see > the minutes). > > The new proposal would be to replace the text in bullet 5 with "Report > to the white space database anticipated spectrum usage at a suitable > granularity." This text seem to be fine with Joel, who raised the objection. > > I hope there is consensus in the wg for this new wording for the > charter update text. If there is no objection on the list to this > newly proposed text in the next few days, I would ask our AD to take > the proposed charter update text in slide 7 of > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-paws-0.pptx, with > the new text for bullet 5, to the iesg. Hi Gabor, Would you be so kind as to send the actual text to the list? That will make it easier for people to track the changes, search on this thread, etc. Thanks! Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ _______________________________________________ paws mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws _______________________________________________ paws mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws _______________________________________________ paws mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws _______________________________________________ paws mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/paws
