We would need to understand what in our charter doesn't work for LSA.

ISTM that as long as there is a database, the database tracks the incumbent's 
use, and provides a response to a location based query for available spectrum, 
that it fits, regardless of whether the secondary user is licensed or 
unlicensed.

I think we do get out of scope if, for example, the spectrum available to one 
querier is different from another, and we're definitely not dealing with shared 
use of spectrum (sharing among secondary users).

Sharing under WS is binary – either an incumbent user is using it, or secondary 
users can use it.

Brian

From: Gmail <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 4:14 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [paws] Spectrum Sharing

Hi Brian, Hassnaa,

Despite having some characteristics in common, LSA and WS are, to me, different 
animals and i doubt there is enough synergy between WS & LSA to fall naturally 
into the scope of PAWS:  "Sharing under the LSA is binary by nature, with 
spectrum being used by either the incumbent(s) or the LSA licensee(s). I 
believe PAWS framework (i.e. direct link between a DB and a master device) is 
tightly coupled with the unlicensed nature of WS concept where LSA is about 
"exclusive spectrum rights of use where and when the spectrum is not used by 
the incumbent(s)".

Regards,
Pierre-Jean Muller
RED Technologies

Le 07/02/2013 19:35, Rosen, Brian a écrit :
Our goal in the IETF is to be as widely applicable as we can within our 
charter, balanced against getting something done sooner rather than later.

That's probably not as helpful as you would like.

I think LSA is in scope = we're definitely not limited to TV bands, and we're 
not limited to unlicensed spectrum.

brian

From: Hassnaa Moustafa 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:32 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [paws] Spectrum Sharing

Hi Brian, Gabor and all,

I read the last use-cases draft 
(draft-ietf-paws-problem-stmt-usecases-rqmts-12.txt) and the recent version of 
the protocol draft, and I notice that the use-cases focus on White Spaces 
utilization.
I have a couple of questions:
- Does the WS database aims to consider the TVWS only or any other frequencies 
(WiFi, cellular, ... for instance)?
- In the charter of the WG, the scope is on WS utilization, would the PAWS 
protocol under progress be applicable to (LSA: Licensed Share Access) also or 
would be limited to the WS?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Hasnaa




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