Sajeev,

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 9:33 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi Vince,****
>
> ** **
>
> My point was not HTTP server errors, but errors which arises out of the
> PAWS semantics scope.****
>
> ** **
>
> 1.  For REGISTRATION_REQ, I have 2 points. One its response should also
> include 'rulesetInfo:RulesetInfo     as  required' parameter. Second, its
> response can have accepted/not accepted kind of semantics. It may add some
> complexity, if we want to process all the different error conditions, but a
> binary semantics may help the Master in its operation.****
>
> ** **
>
> 2. . SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY is not mere a fire and forget notification,
> instead a request/response transaction was my understanding. A possible
> case where a DB can reject the SPECTRU_USE request is: the spectrum which
> the Master device intend to use is no longer been available, as the Primary
> spectrum user is back on to operation, and DB wanted to mark it as no
> longer available. May be rare but it can happen. And if the Master device
> gets such an error from DB, it should pick any other available spectrum,
> and notify again or sent a fresh AVAIL_SPECTRUM request to the DB.
>

The issue is that if the Device picks any other spectrum and notifies
again, it can still get a negative response.

It seems easier for the Device to just have one set of logic that it
implements periodically:

 - Ask for available spectrum, pick one
 - Pick one and Notify

Rather than:

 - Ask for available spectrum
 - Pick one and notify
 ... some time later ..
 - Notify, get negative response
 - Pick another, get negative response
 ...
 - No more to pick, ask for available spectrum

-vince


> ****
>
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>
> Thanks and Regards,****
>
> Sajeev****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Vincent Chen [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 9:30 PM
>
> *To:* Sajeev Manikkoth
> *Cc:* Harasty, Daniel J; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [paws] response to REGISTRATION_REQ****
>
>  ** **
>
> Dan, Sajeev,****
>
> ** **
>
> I was assuming that general "server errors" would be handled at the HTTP
> layer with 5xx codes.****
>
> ** **
>
> 1. For REGISTRATION_REQ, what error conditions should we be capturing?****
>
>    - Some internal error, but can try again later?****
>
> ** **
>
> 2. SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY. What would the device do differently if it did get
> an error?****
>
>   I was assuming that this is a async notify, fire-and-forget, from the
> perspective of the device****
>
> ** **
>
> -vince****
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Sajeev Manikkoth <
> [email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Hi Daniel,****
>
>  ****
>
> First of all thank you very much for streamlining my comments, and
> splitting it into separate email topics. May be I need to take care of it
> next time..****
>
>  ****
>
> Yes, the semantic you suggest here also can be the solution. My point was,
> an authorized master’s request also can fail, because of load at database,
> or due to request semantic error. ****
>
> As SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY also can fall in such a category, I was suggesting
> a generic response accepted/denied.****
>
>  ****
>
> Best Regards,****
>
> Sajeev****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
> Of *Harasty, Daniel J
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:35 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [paws] response to REGISTRATION_REQ****
>
>  ****
>
> Sanjeev mentioned:****
>
>  ****
>
> From: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 10:31 AM****
>
> [...]****
>
> 5. REGISTRATION_REQ, and SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY transctions; can it have
> repsonses like accepted/denied by database?****
>
> [...]****
>
>  ****
>
> As for possible responses to REGISTRATION_REQ, I have been planning to
> suggest this:  I think we need a new generic error code
> “REGISTRATION_FAILED”.  Perhaps a value -203, or the next available
> -200-block code.  ****
>
>  ****
>
> This should be used by the Database in response to a REGISTRATION_REQ if
> no other more specific code is applicable.  (For example: if a registration
> failed due to a missing field in REGISTRATION_REQ, the Database should
> still send the REQUIRED  error; if a REGISTRATION_REQ failed due to the
> Device being unauthorized, the Database should still send the UNAUTHORIZED
> error.)****
>
>  ****
>
> Sanjeev: does that address your need sentiment for “a denied registration”?
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Dan****
>
>  ****
>
> (I have a separate comment about SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY, to follow.)****
>
>  ****
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-vince
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