MoAforika Ndamane, you are correct as members in good standing we need a conference to resolve the problems facing I-party. We now agree that both Letlapa and Moloto have done an equal damage. I must also add that sincere and honest NEC members must stop supporting Letlapa and Narius, people like Justice Mvakali- Mohlompegi Mphahlele- Tebogo Rakomo- PAYCO NEC-PASMA NEC-And Others should ne helped not to fall into a factional trap. They must start interacting with branches on the ground.
Majoni, we attended the Unity Summit, we agreed on uniting the PAC, we must attend also the meeting called by Letlapa. At the unity summit we agreed that it will be wrong of us to act like a group supporting Narius, we must not take sides, here. Forward to PC unity Tongogara On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:47 PM, <sndam...@pac-cape.org.za> wrote: > > Comrades, > > The organization is floating deeper into confusion and that confusion is > perpetrated by people who are called leadership and those who seek to safe > guard their personal gains. . . > > We can call as many gatherings in trying to make things right. . . it is > clear that the leadership as elected in Butterworth is not interested in > the PAC but their personal interests. > > Cde Letlapa Mphahlele, has to sit face to face with the NEC as elected in > Butterworth if they suspend him (right or wrongly), the PAC Constitution > gives avenues to appeal if one feels there is an unfair treatment on > his/her hearing. > > This applies to Cdes Mpethi, Moloto, Joko and any other person. > > What we know as members and structures is that: > > i) the PAC NEC suspended, charged and expelled Cde. Mphahlele > ii) that Cde. Mphahlele went to court and prayed for > a) 11 MAY 2013 NEC meeting resolutions invalid > b) his expulsion to be set aside > c) dissolving NEC meeting constituted on the 11 MAY > 2013 > iii) the court ORDER: > a) the 11 MAY 2013 meeting is declared invalid > b) the resolutions of this meeting are declared > invalid > c) the expulsion is set aside > iv) the application for Leave of Appeal against the above ORDER has > been filed and confirmed at the > court roll. > v) we know who are the NEC members who constituted the 11 MAY 2013 NEC > meeting. > > We also know that: > > 1) Cde. Mphahlele convened an NEC meeting on the 18 MAY 2013 > 2) PAC as an Applicant filed against Cde Mphahlele to bar the sitting > of the 18 MAY 2013 meeting > 3) the court ORDER: > i) the Respondent (Mphahlele) gives an undertaking > not to hold the meeting of > 18 MAY 2013 to be held at the Vaal, > ii) this matter be postponed to normal motion roll > 4) the meeting of 18 MAY 2013 set without Cde Mphahlele > 5) the meeting of 18 MAY 2013 resolved: > a) declared the 11 MAY 2013 NEC > meeting an unconstitutional > and illegal gathering > b) Reaffirms Cde Mphahlele as the > President > c) Suspends with immediate > effect- Deputy President Cde Mpethi > > - Secretary General Cde Moloto > > - Deputy SG Cde Joko > d) Appoints -> Chief > Administrator Cde Mkandawire > -> NDC > e) Convenes Annual National > Conference in December 2013 > f) Restores powers of the > Treasurer > 6) Cde Mphahlele signed the resolutions of the 18 MAY 2013 > 7) Cde Mphahlele as PAC President issued a communique that STOP > structures to attend anything > organized by Cde Mpethi, Moloto and Joko, sighting that they don't > authority as they are in > contempt of the court order. > 8) Cde Mphahlele is convening an NEC meeting that is extended to all > structures to attend on the > 13 - 14 JULY 2013 in the Vaal. > > > IT MUST BE NOTED: > a) Anything with regards to 11 MAY 2013 meeting is in the Appeals at > the HIGH COURT > b) Cde Mphahlele complied with the Court, NOT to attend the 18 MAY 2013 > meeting > > > WHAT WE ARE NOT TOLD: > > i) Given that Cde Mphahlele gave an undertaking in COURT not to hold a > meeting of 18 MAY 2013 to be > held in the Vaal; WHAT is the status of that meeting ? > ii) Since the 11 MAY 2013 meeting was unconstitutional and illegal; WHO > attended the 18 MAY 2013, WHAT > makes this meeting Constitutional and Legal over the 11 MAY 2013 ? > iii) WHAT made Cde Mphahlele to sign Resolutions of the meeting he gave > an undertaking in court that > he will not hold and did not personally attend ? > iv) WHY the 18 MAY NEC meeting did not appoint Acting people in > positions of suspended members, > especially the critical position of the Secretary General ? > v) HOW far is the disciplinary process of the suspended NEC members as > we are in the 7 weeks since > letters of suspension were circulated ? > > In the light of all these happenings irrespective of which NEC side is > correct . . . I see us going deeper into this mess. > > Just imagine when someone from the 11 MAY 2013 NEC meeting decides to go > to court over the decision of the 18 MAY 2013 . . . I guarantee you that > meeting will be nullified based on > > i) Court decision: Cde Mphahlele made an undertaking that > he will not hold that meeting > ii) That meeting quorum is questionable > > So why are we subjecting ourselves to all these notes above instead of > going straight to the Annual National Conference where members who are in > good standing will be DELEGATES who can decide on HOW are we taking the PAC > forward ! ! ! > > Otherwise we will be moving in circles going nowhere ! ! > > I kindly as ask ALL NEC MEMBERS to go for a National Conference . . . > there is a date of 9 - 11 Aug 2013 > if this is not suitable for ALL of YOU sit together and come up with a > suitable date BUT for me the sitting of the National Conference must not be > beyond the MONTH OF AUGUST 2013 otherwise you will be deliberately > sabotaging the cohesion and progress of the organization . . .you have > already done huge damage in the past 12 months ! ! ! > > > The NEC issued a circular for 9 - 11 August Annual National Conference, > the otherside of the NEC is dismissing that pointing at December. > > TO ALL MEMBERS IN THIS EMAIL LIST: We cannot allow this mess to go beyond > August 2013. With this infighting amongst the NEC as elected in > Butterworth, December is too far. We need to correct things NOW ! > > If you feel that the Annual National Conference requires specific > timelines to convene and the time is not on our side . . . Convene a > SPECIAL NATIONAL CONFERENCE the Constitution:[ 5.5 A special National > Conference may be convened by the NEC if, in the opinion of the NEC, an > emergency which warrants such a conference, has arisen or,]. This can be > convened in 30 days . . ! ! ! > > It must be noted the PAC does not belong to Mphahlele, Moloto, nor > Mkandawire . . .the NEC through Moloto called for a National Conference 9 - > 11 August; the NEC through Mphahlele is dismissing that call for a National > Conference . . . what is this joke ! ! ! > > We need National Conference 'YESTERDAY' ALREADY ! ! ! > > iAfrika > > SIYABULELA NDAMANE > 083 790 6470 > > > Quoting Tongogara Ndima <ndimatongog...@gmail.com>: > > But Comrades APLAMVA National- Justice, you are being a hypocrites why >> demand the attendance register for only the 18 May meeting what about the >> 11 May attendance register? You are part of creating confusion within the >> PAC. Moloto called a secrecy NEC meeting you were silence, some weeks >> back, >> when an invite is extended to PAC structures you raise many questions. >> >> Your attitude is against the unity summit you formed part as APLAMVA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Aplamva [mailto:aplamvanational@gmail.**com<aplamvanatio...@gmail.com> >> ] >> Sent: 03 July 2013 03:50 PM >> To: 'vakele mkandawire'; 'Johnson Mlambo'; 'Joe Thloloe'; 'Jaki Seroke'; >> 'Jerry Vakasha'; 'Ray Johnson'; 'Julian Mohlala'; 'Kindo Makhanda'; >> 'Khethamabala Sithole'; 'Advocate K Sizani'; 'Baliwinile Kwankwa'; 'KK >> Kekana'; 'Kenny Bafo'; 'Kgomotso Matsebe'; 'Khensani Teffu'; 'King Lebea'; >> 'Lucky Khoza'; 'Malusi Kolie'; 'Phillip Kgosana'; 'Tommy Kantando'; >> 'wiseman >> mashego'; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; >> kub...@telkomsa.net; 'APLAMVA LIMPOMPO'; 'Gerald Lerobane'; 'L >> Lekgwathi'; >> 'Leaga Lesufi'; 'Lehlohonolo Shale'; 'Lesomepedi Boshego'; 'Letlapa >> Mphahlele'; 'Lethola Mofokeng'; 'Lucky Moeketsi'; 'Lumkile August'; >> luyand...@gmail.com; 'Simon Moeketsi'; 'Sello Letjala'; >> znd...@hotmail.com; >> 'Puseletso Zwane'; 'Zamikhaya Gxabe'; 'Zandi Radebe'; 'Zola Mbi'; 'Zukisa >> Mxesibe'; 'Zuko Camagu'; 'Zuko Hlulani'; 'Sbusiso Xaba'; 'Tembelani >> Xundu'; >> 'Xola Mketi'; 'Xola Tyamzashe'; 'Xolani Mabanga'; 'Xolani Makwedini'; >> 'Xolelwa Njamela'; 'Mthuthuzeli Vena'; 'Samuel Marole'; 'Vusi Mahlangu'; >> 'Vuyiswa Cekwana'; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com; >> paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'PAYCO Azania'; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; >> jabumakha...@yahoo.com; 'Andiswa Mjali'; montja...@yahoo.com; >> mphah...@eskom.co.za; 'Justice Mvakali'; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; >> g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; 'Wandisile >> Mandlana'; rakwe...@yahoo.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; >> rmse...@gmail.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; >> telite...@gmail.com; 'Thembeka Majali'; tob...@yahoo.com; >> tyamza...@yahoo.com; twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; >> yolisamazo...@gmail.com; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; 'Malesela Mogashwa'; 'Ike >> Mafole'; 'Albert Mokoena'; ad...@pac.org.za; 'Archie Kota'; >> a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; azaania...@gmail.com; >> angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; >> samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za**; sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; 'Sipho Linda'; >> sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'Fitzroy Ngcukana'; dannymonar...@gmail.com; >> digashuma...@gmail.com; >> drmotsokopheko@drmotsokopheko.**com<drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com> >> ; >> frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; 'Fihla Brig Gen'; 'Gantsu'; >> hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; >> justice.mvak...@gmail.com; >> ju-...@webmail.co.za; 'PASMA Gauteng'; khoi.so...@gmail.com; >> leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; 'Lulamile Ntonzima'; >> 'Zwelethemba Twalo'; ckoms...@yahoo.com; crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; >> victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; va...@webmail.co.za; 'Bra Mike Motsobane'; >> baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; >> nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; >> nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; >> mafub...@hotmail.com; 'Mathapelo Dhlamini'; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; >> mpumele...@gmail.com; 'Manelisi Mampana'; mphash...@webmail.co.za; >> maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com**; 'Mawethu Sidzamba'; >> nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za >> Subject: RE: Notice of PAC NEC meeting, invitation extended to PAC >> Structures >> >> Izwe lethu >> >> What happen to the secretary of the Pac elected in Butterworth as we now >> see >> Mr Vakele as the Chief Administrator. When we were reading the court order >> it says the Butterworth Nec members remain as is. And we still waiting for >> the copy of the 18 May meeting attendance register to check if you Mr >> Vakele was appointed by a properly constituted forum as a Chief >> Administrator. Ooh you claim to have suspended the secretary by the way >> but >> still send us the results of the DC that sat within 14 days after their >> suspension and the final Nec decision on the matter, all we saw was their >> letters that they are suspended by a meeting of the 18 May whose >> attendance >> register is a top secret so hidden because it did not form a quorum. >> >> Shango lashu >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: vakele mkandawire [mailto:mvak...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 03 July 2013 15:28 >> To: Johnson Mlambo; Joe Thloloe; Jaki Seroke; Jerry Vakasha; Ray Johnson; >> Julian Mohlala; Kindo Makhanda; Khethamabala Sithole; Advocate K Sizani; >> Baliwinile Kwankwa; KK Kekana; Kenny Bafo; Kgomotso Matsebe; Khensani >> Teffu; >> King Lebea; Lucky Khoza; Malusi Kolie; Phillip Kgosana; Tommy Kantando; >> wiseman mashego; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; >> kub...@telkomsa.net; APLAMVA LIMPOMPO; Gerald Lerobane; L Lekgwathi; >> Leaga >> Lesufi; Lehlohonolo Shale; Lesomepedi Boshego; Letlapa Mphahlele; Lethola >> Mofokeng; Lucky Moeketsi; Lumkile August; luyand...@gmail.com; Simon >> Moeketsi; Sello Letjala; znd...@hotmail.com; Puseletso Zwane; Zamikhaya >> Gxabe; Zandi Radebe; Zola Mbi; Zukisa Mxesibe; Zuko Camagu; Zuko Hlulani; >> Sbusiso Xaba; Tembelani Xundu; Xola Mketi; Xola Tyamzashe; Xolani Mabanga; >> Xolani Makwedini; Xolelwa Njamela; Mthuthuzeli Vena; Samuel Marole; Vusi >> Mahlangu; Vuyiswa Cekwana; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com >> ; >> paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; PAYCO Azania; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; >> jabumakha...@yahoo.com; Andiswa Mjali; montja...@yahoo.com; >> mphah...@eskom.co.za; Justice Mvakali; Themba Hlatshwayo; g...@bcawu.co.za; >> g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; >> Wandisile >> Mandlana; rakwe...@yahoo.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; >> rmse...@gmail.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; Themba Hlatshwayo; >> telite...@gmail.com; Thembeka Majali; tob...@yahoo.com; >> tyamza...@yahoo.com; >> twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; yolisamazo...@gmail.com; >> ikeyisa...@gmail.com; Malesela Mogashwa; Ike Mafole; Albert Mokoena; >> ad...@pac.org.za; Archie Kota; a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; >> azaania...@gmail.com; angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; >> solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za**; >> sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; Sipho Linda; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; Fitzroy >> Ngcukana; dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; >> drmotsokopheko@drmotsokopheko.**com <drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com>; >> frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; Fihla Brig >> Gen; Gantsu; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; >> justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; PASMA Gauteng; >> khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; >> Lulamile Ntonzima; Zwelethemba Twalo; ckoms...@yahoo.com; >> crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; >> va...@webmail.co.za; Bra Mike Motsobane; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; >> ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; >> nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Malinge Plaatjie; >> mafub...@hotmail.com; Mathapelo Dhlamini; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; >> mpumele...@gmail.com; Manelisi Mampana; mphash...@webmail.co.za; >> maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com**; Mawethu Sidzamba; >> nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za >> Subject: Notice of PAC NEC meeting, invitation extended to PAC Structures >> >> Good Aftrnoon, >> >> Kindly find attached correspondence and should you need additional >> information, please feel free to contact us. >> >> Regard, >> >> Vakele Mkandawire >> (PAC Chief Administrator) >> Mobile Number: 071 1030 787 >> >> > > > > -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pan Africanist Youth Congress" group. 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