Greetings!

Cde Nkrumah going forward that's the only pursuit I am prepared to engage on. 
The other gymnastics that leads to nowhere I am no longer prepared to entertain.

Forward to socialist revolution!

Linda
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From: "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" <nrkgag...@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 16:51:25 
To: <payco@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

Greeting friends and comrades!

 

“Never in history has any class achieved power without having political 
leaders, men capable of organising a movement and leading it” – Lenin. A cadre 
is a professional revolutionary, a qualified graduate in the art of revolution, 
from the purifying school of practical and ideological battles in defence of 
the poor and oppressed masses. None of us can refute that “the PAC has been 
slowly evaporating itself into total oblivion from the political radar”. We 
must note that these writings remain an exchange among us with access to Payco 
google group and worse of all are ignored by those leading the party who holds 
divergent ideas and methods responsible of the disintegration of the PAC, to 
reason with them has proven to be a futile exercise and thus delivered either 
sour fruits or nothing except maliciousness.  The only logical action, is those 
who uphold the necessity of a revolutionary Pan Africanist organisation and 
accept such bitter truths and willing to explore ways and means to (re-) build 
a revolutionary Pan Africanist Party should converge and execute the necessary 
mass based programme.

 

Shango lashu

Nkrumah    

 

 

From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of matome
Sent: 01 February 2015 10:45 AM
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

 

Comrade Sebenzile,

I hope you are well my dearest Friend and Comrade.

Would you allow me to take off by 'attacking' you and then to end differently? 
Since you are not here to engage in 'real time' I am now answering the 
foregoing question on your behalf. This I do in the knowledge that you are my 
Friend, and one of the finest of our generation.

The question is, have you not been a part of this slumber, self exaggeration 
and pity ? The immediate answer is that you have been. And in addition if you 
wish to contest this, what have you done to change this state? Was it enough 
and or sufficient? All these questions seem to leave you on weaker ground. 

Are you still willing to hear this my Friend ?

I thank you for allowing me to 'attack' you in this way without seeing my 
points as personal affront but an invitation to do more, and my sternest belief 
that you have what it takes to exert yourself more.

Revolution and change require more than just type-writer bravery and 
intelligence. 

It is for this reason that mediocre lead the gifted and talented comrades like 
you. 

The pain and task of leading a revolution and party building are much more 
excruciating than that.

Having said all of the above, to you my dear Friend, I here add my voice of 
praise to the validity that belies your submission. 

That question must occupy all of us, that is whether this vehicle can still 
carry this agenda, and whether it is not a wreckage from which we must isolate, 
extricate and advance the potent agenda contained therein. Signs are all that 
you are right, and on this one, very brave too, to have the guts to point this 
out. I do not have to remind you how Sobukwe was at some point like you, like 
you in that when the charterists ditched the Africanist program, and thus 
rendering themselves a wreckage, he and others were brave enough to say, let us 
pick the agenda away from this and find a vehicle to advance it. And they left 
a movement that was almost five decades old. That was brave. So we have to 
listen to you and to confront this question, and do an urgent assessment of 
whether the current vehicle is still a vehicle or a wreckage that is about to 
burn. And whether its immobility is a temporal state which can be fixed. If the 
latter is correct, I am sure there is extreme urgency. This view, the latter 
one, is getting weak by the day, as pitched against the reality of a vehicle 
that may have become a wreck.

So well done my dear Friend !!

Another thing that has been killing me inside is this:

Have we imagined the potential pain of putting everything aside to fight for a 
people and movement who in your darkest days or even so, in your dying days are 
nowhere to acknowledge your sacrifices. I speak here of the many Apla boys who 
were hanged and those who continue to suffer in and outside of jail. What about 
their mothers, brothers and children? All that sacrifice gone to waste ? 

The above really really kills me. 

You see Gadaffi died a good one, Che, Saddam, Lumumba, Kwame and many others. 
Their flame continues. What about the flame of these comrades and martyrs.

So in the light of the above, the neglect of those who suffered and the state 
of the party, this question that you raise is most poignant.

I have not even dealt with our participation in contemporary issues, and our 
ability to contend with the future. 

So I put up my hands again to clap in praise of your bravery.

This is my type writer support to your comments.

Izwe Lethu ! I-Afrika !

Matome Mashao

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From: Pule Maqekoane <maqeko...@gmail.com> 

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Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 09:55:33 +0200

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Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Quo Vadis PAC

 

We are proud of you Mlaza!

Wow, what a masterpiece!

 

At the time some of us joined the PAC, the general membership was of the level 
of M'Afrika Sebenzile Mlaza.

 

How many Sebenziles and how many Mlazas are still associating themselves with 
the PAC today?

 

This is the wonderful piece.

..

 

Will the defunct split ready PAC leadership ever read it?

 

Yes these cockroaches will dump it down their big bellies, of course without 
understanding, and 

you wonder when they won't comment?

 

Force it unto them and extract an answer.

Don't be shocked by the quality of the answer they will provide, don't stay 
numb.

 

REMOVE THEM1

 

 

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Sebenzile Mlaza <sebenzi...@raf.co.za> wrote:

Revolutionary greetings to all,

 

We've been too obsessed with self-congratulatory stances for too long and yet 
the PAC has been slowly evaporating itself into total oblivion from the 
political radar. And we further kept on blaming the ANC and a ridiculously 
distant force like the CIA for our mishaps. I personally believe it is time to 
wake up and face the bitter truth. PAC  is in a comatose state for an 
indefinite period of time, surely this is  an indictment on the methods we've 
applied to advance and articulate the core objectives Pan Africanism and in 
executing our revolutionary task as Africanists. PAC has simply been rendered 
incapable to execute its own mandate by some faceless political thugs. I don't 
see how will we ever manage to salvage the party from this unbearable 
situation. The stooges and unscrupulous characters at the helm of the party who 
have been largely accountable to their many faceless cliques have not helped 
the situation at all. The party has been in this state of affairs for far too 
long. Nothing that should have been done has not been done, instead the party 
has alienated most if not all of its best cadres and intellectuals alike. 

 

The ambience has changed in the country so a new strategy has to be adopted in 
order to remain relevant in this organic political milieu than for us to appear 
to be led by a jamboree of masochistic gamins who suffer from political 
narcolepsy. For Pete's sake, we all know that the PAC has been precocious from 
its conception to its inception, I am curious to know what really happened in 
exile, but that is a subject that will probably not take us anywhere. 
Yesterday's politics were primarily driven by activism and valour, now it's no 
longer that. The party is faced with a different animal, it's called 
parliamentary politics. Unlike before, this behemoth needs prowess, vision and 
acumen

 

We've sacrificed a lot to be bamboozled by these self-serving lackeys at the 
helm of the party masquerading as lecturers on the theory and practice of Pan 
Africanism. It is high time that we should rethink our effectiveness under the 
tutelage of the now defunct PAC (it feels like we are trying to suffocate the 
dead), by focussing our energies on finding a new political home that will be 
capable of pursuing an Africanist agenda without fear of political, ideological 
and philosophical contradictions emanating from anyone at any quarters. I do 
not mean a splinter group like APC or PAM, but a new political home to pursue 
an Africanist agenda that will not be hindered by the exile conflict in 
executing the core objectives of Africanism. Indeed quo vadis PAC??

 

Inexactitudes not intended … apologies in advance!!!

 

Izwe lethu iAfrika!!!

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