Hi.  The xm stations, *were* only available in 5.1.  It shows a listing for 
them in there now, but they're not there, even with the pro version of 
Winamp. so it's nothing any of us are doing.  it's on the Nullsoft/aol end 
of things.




At 08:27 AM 10/12/2005, you wrote:
>Dana,
>Thanks for letting me know the short URL works, smile, maybe i'll play with
>that.  i'm still running Winamp 5.09 so maybe the references to XM and AOL
>content are new to the latest version, nothing like taking three days to
>figure that out.  If I do find these stations in the library and get them to
>work it'll be great, but otherwise i'm not sure it is worth the upgrade.
>other than the focus issues in the library window that you mentioned, have
>you seen any other problems with the latest version?  Seems to me I'd heard
>of some but maybe wasn't paying close enough attention.  As with anything
>Winamp or even audio, mileage seems to vary.  i may upgrade eventually but
>not today--definitely too much else to do and low frustration tolerance.
>
>Susan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:51 PM
>Subject: Re: winamp problem
>
>
>There is a www.wqxr.com
>But, when you try to get to their stream from there, the link takes you to
>the sign up for AOL. I figured it was much easier to go through Winamp,
>since I found it there. And it's still working that way, even though I can
>no longer find the AOL with XM section of the Winamp library.
>
>BTW, I just experimented and found that, in the terribly long and ugly URL I
>gave you, everything after the question mark can be deleted, and it will
>still work.
>
>Blessed Be,
>
>Dana
>that's Dayna, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A
>
>D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:35 PM
>Subject: Re: winamp problem
>
>
> > Dana,
> > Hmm,  I didn't know that WQXR was one of the XM choices.  Maybe i'll try
> > to
> > find that, though i'm still not real good at pasting in URL's to the
> > Winamp
> > address bar or whatever it's called.  For this station maybe I'll just
> > stick
> > to the regular radio, lol.  Of course, maybe there's a variant of
> > www.wqxr.com, but no, that's probably too simple, right?  nothing like a
> > little wishful thinking.
> >
> > Thanks for your response.  I'm still not sure I understand whether this XM
> > or AOL content is free or not and under what conditions.  it's frustrating
> > to have to register for things before you know what you are agreeing to,
> > and
> > then of course there's the chance it won't work.  Oh well, no such thing
> > as
> > a free radio station or something, lol.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: winamp problem
> >
> >
> >> Susan,
> >>
> >> Well, I don't fully understand it, either. but, when Winamp 5.1 was
> >> released, a couple of months ago, there was a new subsection in the
> >> Online
> >> Streams section of the Library, where you could find AOL with XM streams.
> >> I
> >> found a stream in there for WQXR, the New York Times' classical music
> >> station. I bookmarked it, and I was able to copy the URL from the edit
> >> bookmarks dialogue to my web page. The stream still plays fine, whether I
> >> use the bookmark or the link I created on my web page. but, apparently,
> >> several of us, at least, can no longer find this section of the Winamp
> >> library. Actually, just at the moment, I'm having trouble navigating the
> >> library, at all. Ever since 5.1 was introduce, JAWS would continually
> >> lose
> >> focus as one tabbed away from the main treeview in the library, and then
> >> tried to get back to it. One would have to use the JAWS cursor to find
> >> the
> >> items on the treevew, then click on them and route pc to JAWS. Bt, just
> >> since this morning, I can't even find the treeview. something is VERY
> >> screwed up! I'll have to get a sighted person to take a look, tomorrow.
> >>
> >> If you're interested, here is the URL I found for WQXR, it's very long
> >> and
> >> very ugly, and you have to get it all into Winamp's location bar, until
> >> you
> >> bookmark it. But I still have no idea how the URL is structured, or how
> >> it
> >> might help you to infer the URLs of other Xm streams that will play in
> >> Winamp:
> >> 
> uvox://64.236.34.107:5190/stream/13270?auth_token=r%3D2113823%26sid%3D12770%26expires%3D1126760580065%26csum%3D2cd01f29f7b603749d5c100cdf2f2429&uid=WA-287F2030C25141DC83537812639D1992&sessid=29D12D3CCEFB4A27A0B2D4ED5D8FFB58
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:46 AM
> >> Subject: Re: winamp problem
> >>
> >>
> >>> Gail and Dana,
> >>> I'm a little confused as to the relationship between the XM stations and
> >>> AOL
> >>> and the player through which they are accessed.  I mean, I was under the
> >>> impression that those with an XM account could only play the streams
> >>> through
> >>> Windows Media.  I had an account but canceled it since I found I had
> >>> long
> >>> buffering times on many occasions and sometimes couldn't seem to access
> >>> streams at all, though maybe I didn't try long or hard enough to solve
> >>> this
> >>> problem. Bottom line was that I couldn't see paying for a service I
> >>> wasn't
> >>> able to access.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> However, after they did this deal with AOL this summer, I tried to find
> >>> out
> >>> how it worked but couldn't get definitive information.  I assume that
> >>> they
> >>> want you to download an AOL player which you pay for?  Does this mean
> >>> that
> >>> AOL takes over your ISP?  I have good cable service and this is not
> >>> something I'd want to have happen.  Dana, are you saying that there is a
> >>> way
> >>> to use Winamp as the player of choice listening to these streams?  That
> >>> would seem to be ideal for me since I think the buffering problems I had
> >>> are
> >>> somehow related to WMP 10 though am not completely certain.  Would
> >>> appreciate if you or other good folks could clarify, lol, i'm definitely
> >>> confused.
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:16 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: winamp problem
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Ah, I stand corrected. Since I use the AOL service for my ISP, it is
> >>>> easy
> >>>> for
> >>>> me to go to AOL radio on their main screen, so I didn't look for that
> >>>> feature
> >>>> in the Winamp library. But Winamp probably doesn't have all the AOL
> >>>> radio
> >>>> features. If I know AOL, they're probably using it as an advertising
> >>>> ploy
> >>>> to
> >>>> convince more people to switch to their full service. I like their
> >>>> service
> >>>> but I
> >>>> wouldn't try to talk anyone into switching just because of their radio
> >>>> feature.
> >>>>
> >>>> Gail
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