I don't think it's all versions.  I think you'd have to ask for it!  I think 
that the described version was being sold at Amazon.com, but I'm not sure of 
it still is.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator


> all versions?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator
>
>
>> The DVD version of the movie Ray is DVS described.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: DVD player - Re: Premiere CD Creator
>>
>>
>> >I agree, a nicely laid-out DVD player would be nice. But if each disk is
>> > different, it will be hard to standardize witha player. The only DVD's
>> > with described video I've seen are the ones for season two of the
> Canadian
>> > hit series Corner Gas. To get the DVS with those DVD's you just cycle
>> > through the different audio tracks: 5.1 surround, stereo, DVS, audio
>> > commentaries. My DVD player has a button for cycling through the 
>> > various
>> > audio tracks.
>> >
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruce Toews
>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): 
>> > http://www.ogts.net
>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> >
>> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Peter Scanlon wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would really like to see this company develope a DVD player that was
>> >> truely accessible. It could have the ability to easily access the
>> >> additional "descriptive audio" which is difficult  to access because
> each
>> >> DVD is set up differently. Or at least that is my understanding.
>> >>
>> >> P.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 11:43 AM 2/01/2006, you wrote:
>> >>> Yes, at least in my opinion. I will say it one more time before I 
>> >>> give
>> >>> this subject a rest. Since there are other products out there that
>> >>> require
>> >>> very little learning curve and perform the same or greater
>> >>> functionality,
>> >>> the only message I get from this product is that blind people need to
> be
>> >>> spoon-fed specialized software. I see very little benefit to anyone,
>> >>> beginningg or novice, in paying twice the price of an off-the-shelf
>> >>> program for limited functionality and an interface which is only
>> >>> marginally, if at all, simpler than other off-the-shelf interfaces. I
>> >>> have
>> >>> nothing against the company. I've seen a lot of their products and a
> lot
>> >>> of them serve a distinct purpose and I support them. But this 
>> >>> product,
> I
>> >>> think, just costs new computer users unnecessarily and makes them
> think
>> >>> that they need a specialized program when they really don't.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bruce
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Bruce Toews
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>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Gary Wood wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Bruce.  Is there any reason that a program like this shouldn't be
>> >>>> out
>> >>>> there?
>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:38 PM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hard to make suggestions for a product which I believe should not 
>> >>>>> be
>> >>>>> out
>> >>>>> there in the first place.
>> >>>>> Bruce
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Bruce Toews
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>> >>>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> >>>>> http://www.ogts.net
>> >>>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Brian Olesen wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>> Instead of kritizising a product made especially for the blind we
>> >>>>>> should
>> >>>>>> probably write the company with serious info about, what they
> should
>> >>>>>> fix
>> >>>>>> to make the program the very best also for the advanced users.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Best regards and happy new year.
>> >>>>>> Brian
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 5:14 PM
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I use nero too. Is cd r win just as good as nero? If so, I'll
> stick
>> >>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>> nero instead. I liked roxios easy cd creater. I had version 4, 
>> >>>>>>> but
>> >>>>>>> unfortuneately, when I got xp, I had to trash it and I ended up
>> >>>>>>> using
>> >>>>>>> xps
>> >>>>>>> burning utility until such time when I got real player, which I
> also
>> >>>>>>> like
>> >>>>>>> very much. I also like nero, especially for mp3 and dvds.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Tyler
>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 12:04 AM
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> No.  I think the company that makes CDRWin is goldenhawk or
>> >>>>>>>> something
>> >>>>>>>> like that.  I downloaded a version once to look at but I was
>> >>>>>>>> already
>> >>>>>>>> usuing nero so I stuck with that.
>> >>>>>>>> At 06:07 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Oh. Are you saying cd rw win isn't a worthwhile company?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Tyler
>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 4:44 PM
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premiere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I have never used CDRWin.  I use Nero and I bought CD Premiere
>> >>>>>>>>>> Creator because I think there is a need for this kind of
> program
>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>> I try to support worthwhile companies.
>> >>>>>>>>>> At 02:56 PM 12/31/2005, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> I remember when I used cdr WIN, it told me I needed a skuzzy
>> >>>>>>>>>>> burner.
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is
>> >>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>> true?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tyler
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:02 PM
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Premere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> With most of the major packages it can be set as a default.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> At 01:07 PM 12/29/2005, you wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> CDRWIN has no gap between tracks by default.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> www.goldenhawk.com. I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that with the other major products, this can be set, though
> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if it can be made a default.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bruce Toews
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ogts.net
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time:
> http://www.cornergas.com
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, Michael Babcock wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does this software, I have downloaded it, have the 2 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> second
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> scilence between
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks, and if so, can it be removed?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any one know of a good "free" or "cheap" software wich I
> can
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature on so I dont have the 2 second scilence between
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Nolan Crabb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:50 AM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Premere CD Creator
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian suggested that less advanced users could benefit
> from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier's
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CD
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creator.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree, and thank you for reminding me of
> that.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certain degree of shame for those times when I forget 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solid market for straightforward simplicity.  You're 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed;
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of blind and low-vision folks who don't want all
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arcane
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> techno-goop that can accompany more advanced CD creators,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Premier program does, in fact, create a CD as advertised.
> I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those occasions when I'm in a real hurry, want to just
> burn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mega-quick, and get on with other things.  I hope my
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> previous
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't imply that the program is a failure; indeed, it is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact, for the market for which it was designed, I think 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.  Thanks again, Brian, for reminding me of things I
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have forgotten.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nolan
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