interestingly enough the station i currently work at my school uses what i a 
hybrid system of editing material called a Shortcut. Its a  unit with 
function buttons and a  wheel to controle your space  in the file. We have 
it hooked in and out to a board, and record to it edit then outpout to 
minidisc when doing productions or recording. its a pretty nice system once 
you memorize the key layout, with minimal need for screen support, though it 
does help.
The stations looking to go all digital in the next 2 years but on air work 
is still done with cds and minidiscs.

tj

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:22 AM
Subject: Re: prophet


> Well I am working on it. Hopefully I will be able to come up with some
> answers soon. The only work around that I can think of is to make use of 
> two
> computers. One computer for the production and programming elements using
> screen reading software. Once you have recorded your program, you can then
> send the file to your host computer that would go directly to air. The 
> work
> around that we would be looking for would be similar to that of call 
> centers
> in that only the operator would hear the prompts from the screen reader. 
> In
> this case I can only assume that they must be using multi channel sound
> cards and somehow splitting the different audio feeds.  .
> I find that what is lacking with radio automation software is the amount 
> of
> information on the screen. Some software programs are so detailed that 
> they
> would require a lot of information from a screen reader program, and there
> are other programs that simply do not prvide enough information for the
> operator. Unfortunately at this point in time it is basically a visual
> thing. I do have some functional vision, but would like to have some audio
> prompts simply as a guide as there are simply too many functions that can 
> be
> overlooked with out being prompted. The tune tracker software package was
> designed with a broadcaster in mind, as it has functioning buttons that
> resemble buttons on a cart machine, tape player or CD player. It even has 
> VU
> meters that look like the real thing. You would be hard pressed to find a
> radio station these days that didn't operate with out radio automation
> software. People who are blind or visually impaired are simply put at a
> disadvantage. I have worked with Dallet radio automation software and 
> found
> it to be very user friendly. I used it on a computer with a large monitor
> along with Zoomtext. I have no idea how it would react with a screen 
> reader.
> All that I can say is that electronic editing is much better than using a
> razor blade and editing tape. Don't want to go back to those days ever
> again.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: prophet
>
>
>> I could see the timer displays not working well with speech, but they
> don't
>> matter that much if you know at about what point the vocals in a song
> would
>> start when listening or where a good point is to talk over the end. I see
>> the touch screen interface not working for obvious reasons. I wonder how
>> hard the artist and title info are to obtain using speech, and also
>> operating the other controls of the software? I wonder how one would get
> the
>> screen reader redirected to a cue channel where only the operator hears
> it?
>> I assume each channel off the system is it's own physical sound card so
> have
>> windows default be for that purpose. Maybe radio sound cards are
>> multichannel with multiple outputs that software can address 
>> individually,
> I
>> wish I could figure out how on my turtle beach to force jaws to another 
>> of
>> the 3 outputs that would then have nothing else on it.
>>
>> I hope this tune tracker thing can be made to work. . It sure would be
> nice
>> to see something that is workable.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: prophet
>>
>>
>> > Talking over intros is called ramping upor ramping down if you are 
>> > doing
>> > the
>> > back end of a song. Most of the automation software packages that I 
>> > have
>> > looked at have a digital display indicating TTV. If you are familiar
> with
>> > the intro of a particular song, ramp up time shouldn't be abig issue. I
>> > have
>> > yet to find a fully accessible music scheduler that will tell you
>> > everything
>> > that is going on on the screen from song placement in the lineup to 
>> > song
>> > title and artist. Believe me I have looked at a number of radio
> automation
>> > software packages, and there simply isn't a package out there that I
> could
>> > find that will meet all of our needs. As I see it a screen reader would
>> > have
>> > to be separated and put onto a cue channel, so that the speech would 
>> > not
>> > go
>> > on the air, but the operator would have full control of all of the
>> > functions
>> > and would know what is going on at all times. Unfortunately many of the
>> > software packages that are being developed today use a touch screen
> system
>> > for live on air presentation. If you want the system to go into
> automation
>> > mode you simply touch an icon on the screen and the switchover
>> > automatically
>> > takes place. There is a software package called Tune Tracker that I am
>> > looking into. It comes with preprogrammed time checks, current
>> > temperature,
>> > ramp up and ramp down times etc. I am not exactly sure how user 
>> > friendly
>> > it
>> > is going to be for blind or visually impaired people, although the
>> > developer
>> > of this particular software package would probably welcome the 
>> > challenge
>> > of
>> > coming up with a radio automation system that is accessible with the 
>> > use
>> > of
>> > a screen reader. .
>> > system.
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: prophet
>> >
>> >
>> >> I wonder if the new Nextgen stuff I hear about is accessible? I heard
> of
>> > one
>> >> recommended on a streaming board that Prophet makes called Nextgen 
>> >> 101.
> I
>> >> guess the deal with it is that it is inexpensive because you could 
>> >> make
>> >> it
>> >> simple or get into more complex things with it. Accessible voice
> tracking
>> >> would be cool with the ability to hear the endings of songs to know
> where
>> > to
>> >> start talking. The easy solution to that is to work at a station that
>> >> promises never to talk over anything as lining it up wouldn't be an
> issue
>> >> then.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:23 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: prophet
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > the station at my college uses it but i have not yet gotten to see 
>> >> > it
>> >> >
>> >> > tj
>> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> > From: "Jed Barton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:41 AM
>> >> > Subject: RE: prophet
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Bottom line, it's awful.
>> >> >> Unless someone has used the latest software, the original version
> was
>> >> >> awful.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:35 AM
>> >> >> To: Pc-audio@pc-audio.org
>> >> >> Subject: prophet
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Does anyone here have any experience using Prophet Systems software
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> running a radio station?  I may have a chance to work with it and
>> >> >> wondered
>> >> >> if it is accessible at all.
>> >> >> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>> >> >> Betsy
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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