Or because it was a form of square wave which cannot be handled by noise reduction.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge > Hi, > > The under water sound you here is because you set the level of noise > reduction at too high a level. > > Rick > > > ======= > > Contact Information: > > Skype ID: rharmon928 > MSN ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 330-724-6093 > Location: Akron, Ohio USA > > Visit my new mailing list on www.freelists.org > > blind_geek_zone > > > "The chief handicap of the blind is not blindness, but the attitude of > seeing people towards them." > - Helen Keller, 1925 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge > > > Doesn't prove anything except that you can't use it to do what you want. > You need more of a sample than that. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge > > >> Yeah, I used it a few times on some TV audio I record with my tuner, it >> sort >> of adds an under water sound to things. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:16 AM >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >> >> >>>I agree with your assessment. the noise reduction in goldwave does a >>>lousy >>> job when you use noise from the clipboard. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 12:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>> >>> >>>> Maybe a better way of saying it is to say that in my opinion I do not >>>> feel >>>> that I can get as polished a finished product with Goldwave as I can >>>> with >>>> SoundForge without a lot more work, and a whole lot less flexability. >>>> And, the Goldwave noise reduction that is built-in is no place as good >>>> as >>>> the noise reduction in SoundForge. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Gary Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> >>>> >>>> :I think you can get good broadcast quality from goldwave, but the >>>> program >>>> is >>>> : awkward to work with when you are in a hurry. >>>> : >>>> : ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:07 AM >>>> : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : >>>> : >>>> : >I guess I wouldn't be as concerned about how small a piece as I am >>>> things >>>> : >like the equalizer, noise reduction, click and crackle features, >>>> : >compression, and mixing choices. But, that doesn't mean that my >>>> needs >>>> are >>>> : >the same as everybody else on this list. So, at the very least a >>>> person >>>> : >should be compairing Goldwave to at least one other sound editor in >>>> a >>>> price >>>> : >range that they can afford. And, I would be willing to bet that >>>> Goldwave >>>> : >will be fine for 80 percent or more of persons who are not concerned >>>> with >>>> : >getting broadcast quality for every file they edit. >>>> : > >>>> : > >>>> : > >>>> : > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:59 PM >>>> : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > >>>> : > >>>> : > : With GW you can edit to within a thousandth of a second or finer. >>>> How >>>> : > much >>>> : > : finer do you want than that? >>>> : > : >>>> : > : Bruce >>>> : > : >>>> : > : -- >>>> : > : Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, >>>> he >>>> : > : gave the right to become children of God. John 1:12 NIV >>>> : > : >>>> : > : Bruce Toews >>>> : > : E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> : > : Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net >>>> : > : Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): >>>> http://www.ogts.net >>>> : > : Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com >>>> : > : >>>> : > : On Thu, 25 May 2006, Gary Schindler wrote: >>>> : > : >>>> : > : > the only thing I wish that goldwave could do is to be a more >>>> precise >>>> : > or >>>> : > : > finer editor. you can't beat soundforges editing capabilities >>>> at >>>> any >>>> : > price. >>>> : > : > >>>> : > : > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 2:29 AM >>>> : > : > Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : > >>>> : > : > >>>> : > : >> Some people say, "You get what you pay for!" But actually, >>>> you >>>> have >>>> : > to >>>> : > : >> take >>>> : > : >> a lot of things into consideration when purchasing a sound >>>> editor! >>>> : > What >>>> : > : >> features and abilities you want with a sound editor, and also, >>>> what >>>> : > you >>>> : > : >> can >>>> : > : >> afford! >>>> : > : >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : >> From: "Brian Olesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : >> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:42 PM >>>> : > : >> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : >> >>>> : > : >> >>>> : > : >>> HI, >>>> : > : >>> But it's also pretty expensive. >>>> : > : >>> >>>> : > : >>> Best regards >>>> : > : >>> Brian >>>> : > : >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : >>> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:38 PM >>>> : > : >>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : >>> >>>> : > : >>> >>>> : > : >>>> I think that from what I've heard so far, that Studio >>>> Recorder >>>> from >>>> : > APH >>>> : > : >>>> is >>>> : > : >>>> also quite a program! >>>> : > : >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : >>>> From: "David Tanner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : >>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 12:59 AM >>>> : > : >>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : >>>> >>>> : > : >>>> >>>> : > : >>>>> I think that the individual needs to take a look at each, >>>> decide >>>> : > what >>>> : > : >>>>> they >>>> : > : >>>>> really need to do, and after all that then make the >>>> decision >>>> on >>>> : > how much >>>> : > : >>>>> they are willing to pay to get the editor that will do what >>>> they >>>> : > need to >>>> : > : >>>>> do. I really like SoundForge, but I do a lot of audio for >>>> radio >>>> : > : >>>>> programs, >>>> : > : >>>>> etc. The person simply wanting to get records to MP3 and >>>> clean >>>> : > the >>>> : > : >>>>> files >>>> : > : >>>>> up to make them sound good may decide that they don't need >>>> all >>>> the >>>> : > : >>>>> features >>>> : > : >>>>> of Soundforge, and that they can good enough quality with >>>> Goldwave >>>> : > or >>>> : > : >>>>> Audasity or something else. >>>> : > : >>>>> >>>> : > : >>>>> >>>> : > : >>>>> >>>> : > : >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : >>>>> From: "Chuck Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : >>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:06 AM >>>> : > : >>>>> Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : >>>>> >>>> : > : >>>>> >>>> : > : >>>>> : Hello. I prefer Sound Forge because of the scrubbing >>>> features it >>>> : > has. >>>> : > : >>>>> I >>>> : > : >>>>> also >>>> : > : >>>>> : like the effects but don't get me wrong, Gold Wave is a >>>> very >>>> : > good >>>> : > : >>>>> program. >>>> : > : >>>>> : For me Sound forge is a little bit more accessible. Of >>>> course, >>>> : > Sound >>>> : > : >>>>> Forge >>>> : > : >>>>> : was the first editor I had experience with and that I >>>> think >>>> does >>>> : > : >>>>> color >>>> : > : >>>>> an >>>> : > : >>>>> : oppion sometimes. It's like finding a car though. You can >>>> find 6 >>>> : > : >>>>> people >>>> : > : >>>>> who >>>> : > : >>>>> : like Fords and 6 people who like shevys. The best way is >>>> first, >>>> : > can >>>> : > : >>>>> you >>>> : > : >>>>> : afford both programs in question and then second, >>>> download >>>> and >>>> : > try >>>> : > : >>>>> out >>>> : > : >>>>> each >>>> : > : >>>>> : demo. >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : Just my thoughts, >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : Chuck >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : P.S. I think some of the audio I've produced using the >>>> Noise >>>> : > : >>>>> Reduction >>>> : > : >>>>> : plugins with Sound Forge seem to have better quality then >>>> some >>>> : > of the >>>> : > : >>>>> NR >>>> : > : >>>>> : effects I've used with Sound Forge. >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : >>>>> : From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : >>>>> : To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : >>>>> : Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 2:15 AM >>>> : > : >>>>> : Subject: Re: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : >>>> : > : >>>>> : > Hi Denny! I like Soundforge because of all the effects >>>> that >>>> : > it >>>> : > : >>>>> has, >>>> : > : >>>>> as >>>> : > : >>>>> : > well >>>> : > : >>>>> : > as really enjoy the noisereduction plug-in, and I also >>>> like >>>> : > the >>>> : > : >>>>> ability to >>>> : > : >>>>> : > pitch shift with it! >>>> : > : >>>>> : > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> : > : >>>>> : > From: "Denny Daughters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> : > : >>>>> : > To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>>> <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> : > : >>>>> : > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 1:40 PM >>>> : > : >>>>> : > Subject: gold wave vs sound forge >>>> : > : >>>>> : > >>>> : > : >>>>> : > >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> Hi guys, >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> Right now I use a basic sound editor called Fast >>>> Edit. >>>> I >>>> : > find >>>> : > : >>>>> it >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> useful for doing what I need to get done. When I >>>> bought >>>> it >>>> : > about >>>> : > : >>>>> 3 >>>> : > : >>>>> years >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> ago, I wanted something I'd used before and I didn't >>>> want >>>> to >>>> : > learn >>>> : > : >>>>> a >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> whole >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> new program. >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> I've looked at goldwave and sure it's much more >>>> powerful >>>> : > with >>>> : > : >>>>> effects, >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> de-popping records, batch conversion to any formats, >>>> that >>>> : > kind of >>>> : > : >>>>> thing. >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> I don't like the editing interface, how you can't hear >>>> right >>>> : > where >>>> : > : >>>>> that >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> final bracket drops. I suppose I can get used to it. >>>> The >>>> : > price >>>> : > : >>>>> of >>>> : > : >>>>> gold >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> wave is tempting, sound forge on the other hand costs >>>> more >>>> : > and >>>> : > : >>>>> that's >>>> : > : >>>>> : >> really all I know about it. 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