I think its stupid that real player doesn't allow .mp3 conversion, but that 
is about the only setback I can see, although you have to pay for some 
things which is even more of a drag. I stil like winamp, though, but I use 
meedia player for leasure music listening since its real easy to make 
playlists in.

Tyler
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player


> Hi Tyler.
>
> There's plenty of references to using OGG plug-ins in media player - just
> google it.  As for the real format, well that's just too proprietary and
> will never be supported widely by portable devices and is a pain to 
> convert
> so that's a non starter for me even if it is the best player in the world.
>
> Regards.
>
> Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:45 PM
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
>
>> ahem...
>>
>> I'd have to say that real player would win against playing all filetypes
>> even though it may be hard to get used to. Its easy to make a playlist,
> and
>> at least in my experience its a good all-around player. You can rip music
>> from real player, too. It it doesn't get much simpler: put a cd into the
>> tray and have it rip to your library automaticly. Only problem is that 
>> its
>> real format which is a drag. Not to argue or anything but I haven't seen 
>> a
>> big difference in winamp and windows meedia player, though. Winamp plays
>> .ogg. Is that the only player that does? Or is there a pluggin for wmp?
>> thanks
>>
>> Tyler
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>
>>
>> > Hi Brandon.
>> >
>> > Don't completely disagree with your points below - very valid. 
>> > However,
> I
>> > don't think it gets much easier to rip a CD than placing a CD in the
>> > drawer
>> > and having it automatically ejected less than 2 minutes later having
> been
>> > ripped to the format of your choice which once set as your default will
>> > stick.  You're free to do as much or as little with your computer while
>> > media player is ripping too.  I personally ripped with CDEX for years
> but
>> > was converted over to media player due to CDEX's lack of support for
>> > modern
>> > formats and, in particular, the format I use most often, lossless WMA.
> I
>> > haven't regretted it.  Also bear in mind that the free version of CDEX
> is
>> > ancient now and the current version is not free unlike media player 10.
>> >
>> > As far as playback goes, try playing a concept album where the tracks
> run
>> > into each other or a live album in both winamp and media player 10.
>> > You'll
>> > see that media player wins hands down in providing a seemless listening
>> > experience.  As for quality, it's very subjective but I do think that
>> > media
>> > player does a better job with WMA than winamp.  I suppose that's not a
>> > surprise given it's a  microsoft player playing a microsoft format?
>> >
>> > Regards.
>> >
>> > Kevin
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>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:14 PM
>> > Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>> >
>> >
>> >> hi,
>> >> here's my thoughts on the subject.
>> >>
>> >> windows media player isn't nearly the best choice for cd ripping. you
> can
>> > go
>> >> out and download a free program such as CDEX which is much easier to
> use,
>> > is
>> >> focused on ripping and allows you to convert into mp3 much easier than
>> >> windows media, as well as having more ripping modes if those cd's are
>> >> scratched. to get it, or even just check it out, go to
>> >> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>> >> if you don't like it, you can remove it, but i personally use it for
>> > ripping
>> >> as well as converting between different formats.
>> >>
>> >> as for playing music, I know a lot of blind people use winamp. it's
>> > totally
>> >> scripted, and doesn't have a bunch of garbage that you don't need. 
>> >> it's
>> > all
>> >> keyboard controled and easy. it rips cd's as well, and is also a good
>> > method
>> >> despite being a bit slower. on my pc, it still ripped a cd in 10
> minutes
>> >> with little processor eating up, so i could do other stuff while
> ripping.
>> >> winamp allows you to burn cd's as well, and in my opinion is easier to
>> >> use
>> >> than media player, besides having more internet broadcasting stations
>> >> available that media player doesn't have.
>> >>
>> >> the only disadvantage to winamp, and this can be gotten around, is it
>> >> doesn't play dvd movies. there are plugins that allow you to do this,
>> >> though.
>> >> winamp can be gotten from
>> >> http://www.winamp.com
>> >> that's about it from me.
>> >> Brandon Hicks
>> >> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Skype: callto://reyuth
>> >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
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