Hi Golden,
that is the only way that it will work.
I have done the same.
Arthur Barney
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.


> hi Simon
> yes, i managed to download and run SayPad eventually. i have also changed
> the speech engine to Mary both in SayPad and in Speech under control 
> panel.
> but surprisingly this only works while in saypad. it ceases to function 
> when
> i close saypad. i still get the default sam whenever i run narrator.
> is there a way to set Mary speech engine permanently in narrator as 
> opposed
> to default sam voice?
> your advice is greatly appreciated. apologise for my broken English as
> English is not my native language.
> thank you in advance.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>
>
>> have sent you the saypad file privately.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>
>>
>>> hi again Simon
>>> i don't know whether i have downloaded the right sapi 5 or not. i have
>>> downloaded and installed it on my pc but i can't find it anywhere,
>>> neither
>>> in the programs nor in the root directory.
>>>
>>> Sapi51AndMSTts51eng.exe
>>>
>>> is this the right link?
>>> your further assistance please.
>>> thank you in advance.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>
>>>
>>>> ok now go to programs and select say pad, in there its a normal windows
>>>> menu
>>>> layout, press alt and s, that will get you to the speech menu if you
>>>> then
>>>> set the main voice to mike or Mary, and then the special voice menus
>>>> narrator will use the selected voice next time you run it.
>>>> hth
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hi again Simon
>>>>> having installed SAPI 5, how to use it as another speech engine in
>>>>> narrator?
>>>>> sorry to ask too many questions.
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:49 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi no probs, just run as normal and just accept the default folder it
>>>>>> recommends usually programs sapi 5.
>>>>>> hth
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 2:45 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hi Simon
>>>>>>>    having downloaded Sapi51AndMSTts51eng.exe, which folder exactly 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> extract the file?
>>>>>>> sorry again to ask a dumb question. i'm quite new to computers.
>>>>>>> thanks again.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:56 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi if you go to:
>>>>>>>> http://www.kitchensinc.net/
>>>>>>>> follow the link to text to speech games, then click to robinsons
>>>>>>>> brians
>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>> that is where you can find the engine with 2 extra voices.
>>>>>>>> hth
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "golden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 8:49 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi
>>>>>>>>> i'm new to the list. i'd like to know where to get SAPI 5 as an
>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>> to default sam in narrator?
>>>>>>>>> thank you in advance.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Curtis Delzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 3:32 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I had the problem ever since I uninstalled the A T & T 1.3 voices 
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>> had to install 1.4. I should have just over wrote the 1.3
>>>>>>>>>> installation with 1.4 but did not. When I uninstalled 1.3 the
>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>> you all have began on my machine. I thought with the installation
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> 1.4 it would fix, but no. I got narrator back though with another
>>>>>>>>>> fix, (forgot which one) but not being able to choose another
>>>>>>>>>> voice.
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> can choose it but when I attempt to leave the dialog box it comes
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> with that message.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At 07:21 AM 6/29/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>when I spoke to a microsoft worker, he said work was still on
>>>>>>>>>>>going
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>was a private beta fix, how ever the fix didn't fix my problem, I
>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>choose that horrible sounding sam from the drop down box, because
>>>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>lost his voice for some strange reason, and all my sapi products
>>>>>>>>>>>wouldn't
>>>>>>>>>>>work unless that was installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>I googled this one to death and finely rang microsoft who wasn't
>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>helpful at all although they did send me the patch but I felt as 
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>banging me head against a brick wall.
>>>>>>>>>>>I asked why it wasn't up on the site, and he said that only a few
>>>>>>>>>>>machines
>>>>>>>>>>>experienced this problem, and because they couldn't pinpoint the
>>>>>>>>>>>exact
>>>>>>>>>>>problem, it was hard to put the patch out.
>>>>>>>>>>>all my programs are working now, but if I go in to the control
>>>>>>>>>>>panel,
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>still get that message. I think its something to do with xp sp2.
>>>>>>>>>>>hth
>>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>From: "john stott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:29 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: Windows SAPI 5 problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Hello
>>>>>>>>>>> > I  have the same problem is there no fix on the Microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>> > update
>>>>>>>>>>> > site
>>>>>>>>>>> > And if not can we get Microsoft to put one up there
>>>>>>>>>>> > As this looks like a major bug problem
>>>>>>>>>>> > all the best John
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
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