Oh yeah! But it's in the thousands instead of hundreds of thousands or millions like a commercial license. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Norins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters
> Low power licenses, which is what you mention here, are expensive, in the > U.S. as well! I looked into it and it is a night mare! > > -Mac- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > > Sounds like you'd probably want to apply for an LPFM license as a > religious > organization. LPFM allows you to broadcast with either 10 or 100 wats > legally with an LPFM license. They're not easy to get from what I > understand, but they're easier to get than a commercial license which is > impossible unless you have MUCH MONEY! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:48 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters > > >> High Dave, >> I will take this to heart. >> After all, the bible does say, "obey the laws of the land." >> So before I get my hands on the equipment, I will try and get the license >> to >> use it. >> Oh, by the way, thinks for the info! >> This will make my research a hole lot more easier. >> John Price. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave McLean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:30 PM >> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >> >> >>> Just want to clear up what might be a slight misconception at least with >>> regard to hobby broadcasting in the U.S. >>> Hobby broadcasting is governed under FCC part 15 of the FCC rules and >>> regs. >>> These rules are summarized below. Thanks to the Ramsey Electronics >>> Bulletin >>> Board from which I copied this info. >>> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> After you read my post, please do not respond with comments about "go >>> for >>> it", "relax and have fun", "you won't hurt anybody and won't get >>> caught", >>> or >>> many of the other criticisms which have resulted when someone, such as >>> I, >>> explain the reality of the FCC rules regarding part 15 FM. My intent is >>> not >>> to >>> tell anyone what to do or what not to do; it is to provide information >>> so >>> those who are interested can have a knowledge base from which they can >>> decide >>> on their own how to proceed. If I state technical or other inaccuracies, >>> I >>> will welcome and acknowledge corrections. >>> >>> The FCC rules for unlicensed operation in the FM band limit, among other >>> things, the field strength to 250 microvolts per meter measured at 3 >>> meters. >>> This >>> is not a limit on power, transmission lines, grounds, nor antennas. This >>> limit actually includes the effects of all of these variables and >>> focuses >>> only >>> on the outcome. To put this field strength in perspective, this field >>> strength can be produced by about 11 nanowatts into a dipole antenna. >>> One >>> nanowatt >>> is one one millionth of a milliwatt, so the information typically >>> mentioned >>> about 25 milliwatt transmitters is not only not presenting any >>> meaningful >>> information >>> about compliance with the FCC rules, it is misleading people into >>> believing >>> that this power is the norm for legal hobby FM. A 25 milliwatt output >>> delivered >>> to a typical antenna will exceed the field strength limit by about 1400 >>> times. Many have been cited and fined where the citations mention field >>> strengths >>> in the range of that which can easily be produced by 25 milliwatt >>> transmitter output power. >>> >>> If you don't think this is something to consider, check these links >>> (look >>> for NOUO and NAL): >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/ >>> >>> http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/Welcome.html >>> >>> You will see that there are many citations and fines for unlicensed >>> operation on the FM band. You might think that the kit your built is OK >>> but >>> consider >>> the information on the following links, especially with regard to the >>> calculated "milliwatt" transmitter powers which resulted in FCC actions: >>> >>> http://part15.us/node/1375#comment-4249 >>> >>> http://www.part15.us/node/716#comment-1578 >>> >>> You might assume that because you bought a FM transmitter kit from a >>> good >>> source (such as Ramsey) that it is going to be legal to put it on the >>> air. >>> This >>> is not true unless you can, by some means, assure that you comply with >>> the >>> rules. All of the FM transmitter kits of which I am aware are NOT FCC >>> certified >>> nor type accepted. It is legal to offer these for sale as kits, but the >>> responsibility for legal use falls on the user. There is no assurance to >>> be >>> gained >>> that you will not have a problem just because you bought and assembled a >>> kit >>> from a reputable manufacturer. It is up to you! >>> >>> I have a Ramsey FM transmitter and I have limited the range of this unit >>> to >>> less than 200 feet. Why? Because the FCC itself has published an >>> information >>> sheet which states that this is the approximate range to expect from a >>> legal >>> station. I have no other means to judge my compliance with the >>> regulations, >>> but this is probably close enough. >>> >>> You can achieve, with the kits available and simple antennas, much >>> greater >>> range but consider that you cannot do so legally in the US. A cavelier >>> attitude >>> on the part of those who operate FM transmitters built from kits and who >>> intentionally or unintentionally violate the rules may result in, by a >>> change >>> in the rules, the complete elimination of FM transmitter kits from the >>> market >>> >>> It is your choice regarding what you do. It is my hope, after you have >>> read >>> this, that you will do so knowing what is involved. >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bob Seed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 4:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>> >>> >>>> Oops, I wouldn't recommend going that route! There are very strict >>>> rules >>>> governing FM broadcasting in the United States and Canada. Anything >>>> over >>>> 1 >>>> watt requires a broadcast licence, and you have to ensure that the >>>> frequency >>>> that you are transmitting on is not being occupied by another >>>> broadcaster. >>>> The FM transmitter that is being recommended on this site is more than >>>> adequate to cover the average home. The seller of the unit is not >>>> responsible for any modification done to the unit in order to broadcast >>>> beyond the recommended coverage area. . >>>> \ >>>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Russell,this is John. >>>>> I have been doing some research on transmitters and amplifiers. >>>>> You can take one of these transmitters that was designed for home use, >>>>> and >>>>> hook it up to a 1000 watt amplifier. >>>>> This will allow you to broadcast all over town, that is, if you wanted >>>>> to. >>>>> Based on this, I will try to set up my own gospel radio station, and >>>>> run >>>>> it >>>>> out of my house. >>>>> But however, for starters, the $340 fm radio transmitter with a 1000 >>>>> watt >>>>> amplifier witch will cost around $500, will do the trick for me. >>>>> The Bose and or any radio will pick up a signal this strong. >>>>> The thing that you may have to do, is get an FCC license to broadcast. >>>>> This is something that I'm still trying to figure out how to go about >>>>> obtaining. >>>>> Just as soon as I find out how, I will post it here in pc audio. >>>>> John Price. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "russell Bourgoin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 4:31 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible FM transmitters >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Jonathan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm very interested in purchasing a unit as you describe in >>>>>> your mail. When you say its priced on the high side, how high is >>>>>> high? And, did they charge more for adding the features that you >>>>>> requested? Is there a contact that you have to whom I could speak to >>>>>> obtain a unit tricked out as is yours? >>>>>> >>>>>> I do some dejaying at fish and gun club functions. Often I >>>>>> bring a few large bose accoustic waves and place them outside facing >>>>>> the say, family day activities. The cooking crew is off at the >>>>>> barbecue pit and are out of range of the bose radios that I bring, so >>>>>> they park their trucks around the pit and tune radios >>>>>> in. Unfortunately, they are out of reach of the c crane transmitter, >>>>>> altered as it is. Hence my interest in the unit you describe. Any >>>>>> info is surely appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rusty >>>>>> > At 10:19 AM 9/11/2007, Bob Seed spake thusly:- >>>>>>> couple of months ago, there was a great thread on this list about >>>>>>> FM >>>>>>>transmitters. A user recommended the transmitter found at >>>>>>>http://www.wavemach.com. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I purchased one of these and am thrilled. The range is huge, the >>>>>>>construction solid, no nasty power hum, very good stereo separation, >>>>>>>in >>>>>>>short, no complaints whatsoever. I got him to add a level control >>>>>>>that >>>>>>>allows me to set the line in for the two RCA sockets, and he also >>>>>>>added >>>>>>>small buttons for setting the frequency. It has a standard antenna >>>>>>>socket >>>>>>>at >>>>>>>the back and comes with a very solid little antenna, not just a wire. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>So if you're looking for an FM transmitter, this one is definitely >>>>>>>worth >>>>>>>a >>>>>>>look, but it is on the high end of the price range. You definitely >>>>>>>get >>>>>>>what >>>>>>>you pay for though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Jonathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Jason Boston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>>>>>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:26 AM >>>>>>>Subject: Accessible FM transmitters >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>>> > I'm looking for a blind friendly FM transmitter that will work >>>>>>> > well >>>>>>> > with >>>>>>> > PC, stereo, mp3 player, etc. It also needs to be able to broadcast >>>>>>> > 150+ >>>>>>> > feet in a household environment. This is for use in the USA, so >>>>>>> > the >>>>>>> > broadcasting frequencies need to end in odd numbers. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I also would like the transmitter to have multiple power supply >>>>>>> > options >>>>>>> > like car adapter, AC adapter, batteries, even USB. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I've seen one called MobileBlackBox v5000 fm transmitter, but it >>>>>>> > seems >>>>>>> > to be out of stock and I don't know how easy it is to use. Also, I >>>>>>> > don't >>>>>>> > know if it lives up to the range it claims. I know the one you can >>>>>>> > buy >>>>>>> > at Radio Shack for about $30 isn't worth 2 cents. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Well, thanks in advance for your input and advise. >>>>>>> > Jason >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>> > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: >>>>>>> > 9/9/2007 10:17 AM >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>>>>> > http://www.pc-audio.org >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >>>>>>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>>> > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: >>>>>>> > 01/09/2007 >>>>>>> > 4:20 PM >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>>>>>http://www.pc-audio.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>>__________ NOD32 2522 (20070911) Information __________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>__________ NOD32 2522 (20070911) Information __________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>>>>>http://www.eset.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "For everything that lives is holy, life delights in life." >>>>>> (William >>>>>> Blake) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Check out my site at: >>>>>> http://www.thesoundzone.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>>> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: >>>>>> 9/10/2007 >>>>>> 5:43 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.14/999 - Release Date: >>>>> 10/09/2007 5:43 PM >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.15/1003 - Release Date: >>> 9/12/2007 10:56 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
