Even though I've just ripped most of my collection I find my new found ability to access everything liberating.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:30 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ah, but you see, I prefer to play all my music, using Winamp, directly from the AAC files on my external drive, and keep my CDs stored for archival backup. That way, I don't have to go fumbling through hundreds of CDs to find a particular track. Until recently, I think, Winamp wouldn't play from DVDs. And, even now, fumbling through a couple of hundred DVDs isn't much more convenient than fumbling through several hundred CDs. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding That's a consideration of course, that's why I've put all my Cue/FLAC files on to DVD-RW'S, that way I can compress to whatever format I like and if I ever want to change them I just put the DVD'S into the drive and repeat the compression process for another format. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 12:56 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and Encoding If I had the space, I would rip everything to FLAC. But, If I did so I couldn't fit all my hundreds of CDs onto my two 300 gig external drives. With AAC+, I can. The use of ANY lossy format involves a trade-off between quality and space. To my mind, AAC+ at 192kbps is the best trade-off I've found. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "albert griffith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 11:40 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Now, that makes sense to me. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:39 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and Encoding Ok, well here's a perfect example why I use Cue and FLAC files, any new format comes along that's superior to another? Then it's a snap to convert the content, particularly with Easy CD DA Extractor. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Friday, 23 November 2007 3:34 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things If I missed something, please bare with me but what are the advantages of acc plus? I'm relatively new at this and I've just converted hundreds of disks to wma lossless in the believe that I'd lose very little in the way of sound quality. Plus someone on one of my lists suggested it. However, I wouldn't be adverse to keeping high quality sound using less space. I sampled mp3's at 192kbps but I didn't like the way they sounded on more powerful sound systems with bigger speakers. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:05 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Because, as far as I know, WMP does NOT support Advanced Audio Coding. After all, it's a Microsoft product. DUH! ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things High Dane and Dana, I have a question for both of you. Even though these AUG files sound pretty dorn good, how come they don't play in Windows Media Player? They will play in Winamp but not Windows Media. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana S. Leslie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Oh, I'm 99.9% sure AAC+ isn't lossless. But it's the best lossey format I've yet found. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 6:59 AM Subject: RE: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I think (could be wrong) that AAC+ is a lossless format? If this is the case then conversion wouldn't be a problem if you wanted to try it but again, point taken all the same. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 10:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things When I tested the MAD decoder, I was quite impressed with how much better it made mp3s sound. but, since I had, long before that, already reripped my entire CD collection to AACPlus, I wasn't about to revert to mp3, even with MAD for playback. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:17 AM Subject: Ripping,Copying and EncodingRE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Media Player etc are probably fine for most people but in my situation where "perfect rips" and "perfect copies" are a "must have" then Media Player and others are just out of the race. As I said before, those people who are sticking with Easy CD DA Extractor (that includes Yorus Truly) are on a pretty good thind I reckon but still, Exact Audio Copy and Max Ripper are the only things I've tested which do "perfect rips" and "perfect copies" of audio CD'S. Compression? Well Danna sort of had it right and I reckon her ears are functioning <smile>, AAC+ is a damn good standard, its regretable that (unfortunately) EAC doesn't (as far as I know) support AAC+ internally so you have to run an external encoder, either that or do your rips with EAC (as Wave files) and convert them with something like Easy CD DA extractor which will let you do thousands of files in a batch as everyone knows, that almost defeats the purpose but still the rips are more accurate. EAC is (if set up correctly) considerably slower than Windows Media Player, taking say 7-10 minutes to rip a CD however this speed reduction is due to the comparison ripping the programme does, reading and re-reading each sector and comparing the values, I was also interested to read that Exact Audio Copy will handle copy-protected audio CD'S, not that you see too many of those round these days I don't think. Now for those who will sware by MP3 till their "dying day" well I admire your courage and (whilst I admit that MP3 is getting a bit long in the tooth now) you can get some very nice quality out of LAME if you tweek it, that means not using the defaults offered to you by your ripper. If you're using Winamp to play your MP3 files then it pays to use the MAD MP3 output plug-in, you'll hear the difference and MAD is not the only great MP3 decoder for Winamp either. VLC'S decoder seems to be rather nice. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of albert griffith Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:19 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Exact audio copy was developed by a good programmer who really likes his tracks to be ripped neatly. It's a good program but I like the media player as well if I'm ripping to a format they support. Example: I've ripped 500 disks in the last two weeks with it and it's been a breeze. I just push in the disk drawer and away it goes and ejects the disk when the ripping is complete. EAC. has this drive off-set stuff and while it makes files look better on paper, I can't hear a difference. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:40 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things I'm not familiar with EAC. Details, please. What makes it superior? I've been happily ripping with Easy CDDA since version 4 or 5, I think. Can't imagine an easier interface, or better results. Blessed Be, Dana that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your customized pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: dsleslie Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE Your Source for Discounted Ideas http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things Yeah, well the software is only going to be used for conversion here as I find that EAC does a far better job at ripping, honestly that software is the best ripper on the earth I reckon. On 22/11/2007, at 2:29 PM, Dana S. Leslie wrote: > Dane, > > Glad to help. And, thank you for alerting me to the change. As I > said in my > last message, I mostly only ever use the program to rip CDs to my hard > drive. But, occasionally, I will convert some files. If you hadn't > alerted > me, I probably would have been happily ripping away with version > 11, and > been very surprised and frustrated when I did, eventually, want to > do a > conversion. > > Blessed Be, > > Dana > that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your > customized > pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. > > D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: dsleslie > Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > Your Source for Discounted Ideas > http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:54 PM > Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things > > > Thanks Danna, just tried it and its working a treat. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > audio.org] > On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie > Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 5:33 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things > > Dane, > > Here's what I found: > In the converter, F8 no longer works to start the conversion. You > have to > use the JAWS cursor to find the Convert Files button, and click it > with the > JAWS cursor. The button is located a few lines up from the bottom > of the > screen, toward the right side of the screen. > > In the burner, F8 still works to begin the burn. But, I found, it > seems to > take longer than it used to get the files you've selected loaded > into the To > > Be Burned list box. Once they are, though, F8 starts the burn, and > everything works just as it used to. > > Good luck. > > Blessed Be, > > Dana > that's Dana, D A N A, NOT Donna, D O N N A > If your synthesizer pronounces them identically, instruct your > customized > pronunciation dictionary that Dana=dayna. > > D. S. Leslie, née C. R. Guttman > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skype: dsleslie > Web: ÞE OL' PHILOSOPHIE SHOPPE > Your Source for Discounted Ideas > http://members.cox.net/dsleslie2/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:01 AM > Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things > > >> Thanks for that, see how you get on. A friend alerted me to this >> 9for want >> of a better word) problem, I was up until a few days ago using >> Easy CD DA >> Extractor Version 10.5 and things worked a bit differently, you >> used the >> context key on a folder, selected convert with Easy CD DA >> Extractor, the >> software would launch, you made your settings (I.E. output format, >> folders, >> file name etc) and pressed f8, the conversion process started and >> now this >> thing just won't work for me for some reason, won't work for my >> friend >> either so if anyone gets it working let us know. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie >> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:56 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things >> >> I haven't had an occasion to try burning or converting, since I >> upgraded >> to >> 11. I'll try playing with those features, over the holiday >> weekend, and >> report back. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:21 AM >> Subject: RE: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things >> >> >>> They're enabled, the converter actually launches but the convet >>> button >>> and >>> option in the actions menu is disabled for some reason. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> On Behalf Of Dana S. Leslie >>> Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 12:16 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things >>> >>> Go to Options, General Settings, Do you have the Enable Windows >>> Explorer >>> Context Menus check box checked? >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:39 AM >>> Subject: Easy CD DA Extractor: they've changed things >>> >>> >>>> Ok, in the older version of Easy CD DA Extractor I was using >>>> before I >>>> upgraded, I was able to say select a folder containing sub-folders >>>> containing say wave files, press the Windows Context key from >>>> Windows >>>> Explorer, click on the "Convert With Easy CD DA Extractor", the >>>> software >>>> would then launch where I could then change the settings for my >>>> required >>>> job >>>> and press f8 to start the conversion. Now this behavior has >>>> changed, the >>>> option is still there but the "convert" button is disabled on >>>> the screen >>>> and >>>> in the Easy CD DA Actions menu, anyone have any idea of what I'm >>>> doing >>>> wrong? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ NOD32 2674 (20071121) Information __________ >>>> >>>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>>> http://www.eset.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> __________ NOD32 2674 (20071121) Information __________ >>> >>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> __________ NOD32 2674 (20071121) Information __________ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > __________ NOD32 2676 (20071121) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________ NOD32 2677 (20071122) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________ NOD32 2677 (20071122) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________ NOD32 2677 (20071122) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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