Dane, this isn't a list for operating systems or screen reader discussions 
but you've mentioned some interesting applications here.  Might be useful to 
expand on how you're using these applications.  That is, are you totally 
blind and completely relying on voice over or have some small amount of 
sight to get you round some difficulties when necessary or partially sighted 
and using screen magnification.

I think the take up of Macs is about 5% compared to windows so there may 
only be yourself using a mac on this list but it may be useful to others to 
know if the operating system and these applications are totally accessible 
to a blind person using voice over in case someone goes for a change from 
windows and ends up with a pup that they can't fully use.

Kevin
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: Os 10.5 Leopard, some people are having problem it seems


> Hi everyone!
> So how are you all going with Leopard, everything running smoothly is
> it? According to the technology columns in my local paper yesterday,
> the transition from Tiger to Leopard for many Mac owners has been less
> than smooth.
> The writers point out that the first problem which seems to occur is a
> "Blue Screen" when Leopard is installed and the system restarts. Well
> that's an interesting point because when I installed Leopard onto my
> Imac, I wasn't able to reboot the machine but I did have a faulty
> machine at the time so I wouldn't take too much notice of my experience.
> I've installed Leopard on 2 computers here, my Macbook and a friends
> g4 Ibook and both installs went without a hitch but I'd be lying if I
> said that I haven't had a few teething problems with a couple of
> pieces of software, the one which comes to mind is Audio Hijack Pro.
> This software may require you to download extra modules depending on
> how you use the software, for example if you want to instantly hijack
> an application such as Real Player, VLC, Itunes or Quicktime, without
> this plug-in Audio Hijack Pro has to re-launch the application you're
> trying to hijack before you can proceed. So to put this into context,
> suppose you're listening to BBC7 on the Internet through Real Audio
> Player and you decide you like what you're hearing so you launch Audio
> Hijack Pro in order to hijack and record the output of Real audio,
> Select Real Audio from the sessions table and press the Hijack button.
> Audio Hijack Pro then comes up with a warning message telling you that
> Real Audio player has to be re-launched before Hijacking can take
> place, as you can see this sanario  is extremely annoying but that's
> exactly what happens without the Instant Hijack plug-in installed.
> On my systems here and another that a friend and I have tried, Audio
> Hijack Pro (whilst acknowledging that the Instant Hijack plug-in is
> available) will not give you the status, that is whether its installed
> or uninstalled  but its safe to say I think that uninstalled ins the
> likely status <smile>. I've written to the developers about this so I
> hope we see some action before too long.
> That's the only really big annoyance I've had to put up with since
> installing Leopard, all my other favourite applications such as Nisus
> Writer Pro (the word processing package I use), Transmit (the FTP
> client I use) all have released updates to cope with Leopard.
> so here's another question. We all know that Leopard was in beta mode
> for quite some considerable time (unless I'm very much mistaken at
> least 12 months or more) so why are these software developers so
> behind when it comes to releasing updates for Leopard? Adobe for
> example doesn't have any plans to release updates for Acrobat or Photo
> Shop until the new year.
>
>
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