Wow! that is surprising that total recorder can't be used.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Same thing here with my Gateway laptop.  SigmaTel High Definition Audio.
> The record mixer has two mic inputs and CD but nothing like "what you 
> hear".
> I don't even know what is connected to the second mic input.  Gateway sure
> doesn't help. None of the programs like Total Recorder and Replay will 
> help,
> even with their special drivers.
>
> I think the thing to do in this case is to get a USB sound card for my
> laptop.
>
> Bob
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:16 AM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>>
>> which Sigmatel card is that.  I just got this computer last June and the
>> card in it is the "SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
>> and all it shows in the record section under properties is line-in and
>> microphone.
>>
>> ******************************
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>>
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Sunshine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>> actually the newer sigmatel cards do have the stereo mix feature in them
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:55 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that
>>>> feature
>>>> so you willl need a program like total recorder.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
>>>>> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix
>>>>> options,
>>>>>
>>>>> Billy,
>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> sound card.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>>>>>> winamp,
>>>>>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>>>>>> Sorry about this,
>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start
>>>>>>>> Gold
>>>>>>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold 
>>>>>>>> Wave.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>>>>>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so
>>>>>>>> on,
>>>>>>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add any
>>>>>>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb
>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the voice
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
>>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -0000, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>>>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>>>>>>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go 
>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>> goldwave
>>>>>>>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>>>>>>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the
>>>>>>>>> finished
>>>>>>>>> project?.
>>>>>>>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something here,
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>>>>> Billy,
>>>>>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the
>>>>>>>>> >music
>>>>>>>>> >track
>>>>>>>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold 
>>>>>>>>> > Wave.
>>>>>>>>> > There
>>>>>>>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Bruce
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > -- 
>>>>>>>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name,
>>>>>>>>> > he
>>>>>>>>> > gave
>>>>>>>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Bruce Toews
>>>>>>>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: 
>>>>>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>>>> > http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>>>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>>>>>>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing
>>>>>>>>> >> track,
>>>>>>>>> >> but
>>>>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>>>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>>>>>>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in 
>>>>>>>>> >> sound
>>>>>>>>> >> on
>>>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>>>> >> mother board.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>>>>>>>> >> Billy
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing my
>>>>>>>>> >>> radio
>>>>>>>>> >>> shows
>>>>>>>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his 
>>>>>>>>> >>> name,
>>>>>>>>> >>> he
>>>>>>>>> >>> gave
>>>>>>>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>>>>>>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger:
>>>>>>>>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just
>>>>>>>>> >>>> started
>>>>>>>>> >>>> donig
>>>>>>>>> >>>> this sometime last year.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>> >>>> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> >>>> skype: marrie1
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Website;
>>>>>>>>> >>>> www.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>> >>>> To check out my podcast go to
>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>>>>>>> >>>> For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast
>>>>>>>>> >>>> check
>>>>>>>>> >>>> out
>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>> >>>> "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet,
>>>>>>>>> >>>> ah
>>>>>>>>> >>>> well
>>>>>>>>> >>>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection". 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think 
>>>>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>>>>>> >>>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page
>>>>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>> >>>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a
>>>>>>>>> >>>> while
>>>>>>>>> >>>> since
>>>>>>>>> >>>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced
>>>>>>>>> >>>> either.
>>>>>>>>> >>>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features
>>>>>>>>> >>>> available
>>>>>>>>> >>>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> onboard.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> There's
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are asking
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> and set
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave wins
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> hands
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> down.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> piece
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> software
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> reduction
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> manual
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> difficult
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> to use with speech.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it than
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For instance,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> sure,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> am I
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> none
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program is
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> its hefty
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a recorded
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> file,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> extraneous
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> noise,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> group
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> edit a
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> while
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> using Sound
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> restoration
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> entire file.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm not
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> most from the program.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> copy,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> but to
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> first
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> audio editor
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> choose
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps you in some small way.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:02 AM
>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Subject: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> what is the best sound editing software on the market
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> today?.
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> What is the basic differences between Gold Wave &
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> SoundForge?,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> What are the latest versions of both pieces of software, 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> is more
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> speech friendly?,
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> email. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> MSN. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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