Oh, I agree. But if you are a female, you can pay $500 for a purse or you can buy one that doesn't have a designer name for 20. You can pay 300 for a pair of jeans or you can pay 40. You can buy a pair of Jimmy Chu shoes or you can buy a pair at sears. I don't even know the U S price for these scripts, but Australian is $70. Considering the weakness of the American dollar, I would expect these scripts might be $80 or even $100. But if you think it's worth paying $80 to access your $150 or $200 ipod, I'd go for it.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Matzura Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 6:58 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! Paul, it's all about value, and what's of value to you may or may not be of similar value to me or others. Considering what the scripts do, and what you can do without them, which is basically nothing unless you have the proper version of JAWS or Window-Eyes, therein lies the value. You may not know this, but we're not talking one single little script here. On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:23:22 -0700, you wrote: >No, The market won't decide it. Some people are just desperate enough and >will pay for anything. It happens the same way in the sighted world. People >are scammed all the time paying huge amounts and then getting nothing or >very little in return. >You're right. Nobody is going to hold a gun to my head and make me pay $70 >for a script, but I also have a right to state that it's highway robbery >plain and simple, like selling hammers to the pentagon. >If he can get the money for an over-priced item, more power to him. >But $70 for a script is too high. Ask your sighted friends whether they >would pay $70 for a script. >When they stop laughing in your face, perhaps you'll come to your senses and >agree. >Nobody's whining about anything here. They're just calling a spade a spade. >Why not charge $100 for it? Someone will probably be desperate enough to pay >for it. >Doesn't make it right. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Karl Smith >Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:09 PM >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >Subject: RE: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > >Have you tried the scripts? No one is going to hold a gun to your head to >pay for them if you don't want. Notice the version is 4.0 so it looks like >Brian has convinced enough people that the work he has done is worth it. >Why do you people insist on whining about something like this? If it is >just a simple script then write them yourself and give them away if you >want. If the price is too high then the market will decide it. > >The J-tunes scripts take a program which is useable with JAWS and make it an >efficient well running pleasure to use. If you don't want to pay for it >then don't but don't make stupid and unsubstantiated comments about Brian >when you haven't a clue what you're talking about. > >Karl > > > >____________________ > >Karl Smith >Access Technology Specialist >Axis >4304 South El Camino St. >Taylorsville, Utah 84119 > >Phone: 866-824-7885 >Fax: 866-824-7885 >E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Life is one dumb thing after another....Love is two dumb things after each >other. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of Paul Henrichsen >Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:21 PM >To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >Subject: RE: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > >Yeah. 20-30, but no way I am paying 70-80 for just a script no matter how >good it is. >Somehow, that reminds me when people who created accessible software used to >charge outrageous prices because they knew they could screw some agency who >would pay it. I really think this price structure should be rethought. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On Behalf Of constantine (on laptop) >Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:33 PM >To: PC Audio Discussion List >Subject: Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > >Hi there > >If I'm not mistaken, that's in euro's (Or pounds). Iether way, here in >Canada or in the States, its probably even more- i agree, there is a limmit- > >heck, I'd have been willing to pay fourty- because I did use the demmo at >one point and did it ever make a difference. > > > >contact details: > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >and others >msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >skype: the_conman283 > >system details: >Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu >100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 8:23 PM >Subject: Re: SV: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! > > >I too am a fan of freeware and open source software, but remember iTunes >has only just now become accessible "out of the box". You may also need >the latest versions of the screen readers as well, like the second >release of the JAWS 10 Beta, although I'm not sure about this particular >point. I'm more than willing to pay for an accessible solution when >either there isn't a free accessible solution at all or the free >solution is just a lot tougher to use. I'll also support the development >of accessible software by paying for software that's been made >accessible, although there is a limit! I'm not sure if J-Tunes is worth >the price, but it's my understanding that up until Apple released iTunes >8, you didn't have a lot of other options. > >Just to come clean, I've never used J-Tunes, itunes or an iPod. For my >part, the Apple space is just too expensive and proprietary, although to >be honest, the iPod Nano 4th Generation does have me intrigued. > >Anders Holmberg wrote: >> Hello! >> Well actually i agree with you. >> Haven't tested itunes but as i understand iTunes is free. >> Long live the freeware and open source. >> /Anders. >> >> -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >> Från: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> För constantine (on laptop) >> Skickat: den 7 oktober 2008 06:22 >> Till: PC Audio Discussion List >> Ämne: Re: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! >> >> >> Ow, that price, inclduing the ipod, seriously turns me off. I don't think >> I'll be buying this. I mean, what's the difference between j-tunes and I >> Tunes? I thought I tunes by itself was accessible. >> >> >> >> >> contact details: >> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> and others >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype: the_conman283 >> >> system details: >> Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, >> Fujitsu >> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Pattison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Access-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PC-Audio" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:11 PM >> Subject: Fwd: J-Tunes 4.0 is released! >> >> >> >>> From: Scott Erichsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Despite a bit of a roller-coaster ride at the last moment with the >>> iTunes 8.01 update, J-Tunes version 4.0 is now available to download. >>> Please read this message carefully as it contains important >>> information prior to download. >>> >>> First, we must thank our beta testing team. If it was not for the >>> dedication and support from our beta testers this product just >>> wouldn't have happened. Considering iTunes 8 was released in >>> mid-September, and here we are in mid-October with a completely >>> rewritten and tested product is largely due to the hard work they have >>> put in. >>> >>> Also thanks to the developer, Brian Hartgen who has worked day and >>> sometimes night to get this product to the stage that it is now. He >>> must be congratulated on a fantastic effort. >>> >>> The User Guide is available on the website and I would encourage you >>> to read it as it is likely to answer all your questions. We have >>> expanded it to include all the new features of J-Tunes and have >>> included a whole new section on the use of the iPod Nano 4th >>> generation which is the latest iPod with talking menus >>> >>> J-Tunes will function as a demo by default. However if you have >>> purchased J-Tunes version 3, you can upgrade free of charge. Please >>> read the section in the User Guide relating to how this is done. The >>> price for a full copy of J-Tunes in Australia is $75.00. >>> >>> Literally as each day goes by, we learn more and more about iTunes. We >>> are collectively using more and more functions of iTunes to learn how >>> things work, and so there may be aspects of iTunes which are still >>> inaccessible. If so, please let us know, but we hope J-Tunes 4.0 goes >>> a long way to addressing them. >>> >>> Finally, as with all software, there may be problems with any software >>> package combined with iTunes. However if a bug is conclusively found, >>> the only way to get it addressed for sure is to send it to me at >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> I will then take responsibility for sending your report onto our beta >>> testing team. we will try and rectify it in the next J-Tunes update. >>> But we hope that you will enjoy the J-Tunes experience in using JAWS >>> with iTunes as our many customers have done until this point. >>> >>> So for that all important link. 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