Is all this pardisanship not just a whole lot off-topic for this list? And no, I'm not a member of the NFB, nor am I even American.

Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Gary Metzler wrote:

I liken the NFB to the Borg on Star Trek.  Its just one collective mind.
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 Funny, a NFB member told me different.

 Rick

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 Shalom.  I do not want to argue with you , but NFB did not do anything to
 destroy the availability of DVDS in the United ?States.
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> No, I was referring to his sarcasm about what planet Cane was on; > totally
>  unnecessary!
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> > > Mac, > > If you are referring to the NFB statement he's correct. The NFB did
>  everything within their ability to destroy DVS in the united states and
>  succeeded in their task almost completely..
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> > > Cane, > > I think your point is well taken, while Dave's is just a bit of
>  unnecessary
>  sarcasm!
> > Mac Norins
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> > > Hi, folks. > > I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.
>  But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
>  some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
>  writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
>  iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
>  hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.
> > I'm presuming, first of all, that most Hollywood feature films on DVD
>  come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
>  presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
>  too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
>  where action was described in the first place, should have that same
>  DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
>  wondering about the following:
> > 1. How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the
>  download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
>  source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
>  this feature before I buy?
> > 2. When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
>  there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
>  menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
>  descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
>  Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.
> > 3. Am I being completely naive here? Obviously, I know a lot of
>  stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
>  of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
>  of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
>  versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
>  wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
>  same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
>  bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?
> > Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for
>  others I may encounter.
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