i love a good quality sound i come from the years of vinyel, and tapes and the like. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Wood" <k8...@comcast.net> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:31 AM Subject: Re: High fidelty and turntables today
I still like hi fi music through my surround sound. I like the sound of being right in the middle of the action. My opinion is that that's the way music should sound, but that's just me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <rays-h...@raynetbrm.plus.com> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: Re: High fidelty and turntables today > Haven't got to the start of this thread, but oh my Word, fancy this coming > up > again. > > Agree with Steve Green about the snap crackle and pop, but these almost > religeous disputes have gone on for ever, or since early recording > history. > there were and maybe still are, those who praised acoustic recording over > electircal recording, and by itself that hints at more than a touch of the > off > the wall sort of attitudes around this. > > Yep, Hi Fi separates are good and even better, but there are some good > integrated units about from high end manufacturers. I've had a QUAD audio > system (British Hi Fi maker, now Chinese owned, for some 30 years or more > and > it sounds good and I've never had it repaired. In the end it is all > subjective but I gave up on Hi Fi magazines when one reviewer pronounced > that > while ""auditioning" a low-mid price system in his upstairs study, he > could > hear his wife downstairs playing the no compromise system down stairs, and > despite the floor boards and carpets in between the system had more > subtlety > even through these than the more modest affair he was listening too. If > you > believe this sort of thing then you're on a different plannet to me! > > Ray. > (Hoping this message gets through as Plusnet's giving me a hard time > today.) > Ray > > STEPHEN GREEN wrote: > Oh, you can always hear the difference with vinyl - it goes click click > pop > flutter pop crackle wow click. > > Steve Green > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce Toews" <br...@ogts.net> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:03 AM > Subject: RE: High fidelty and turntables today > > >> The best way to do the vinyl versus CD test is blind, not knowing which >> you are hearing. If you do multiple, unpredictable trials of this manner, >> you will get a more unbiased opinion when you formulate one. >> >> Bruce >> >> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009, Walter Ramage wrote: >> >>> Hi. In short the answer is yes, you will always get superior quality >>> reproduction from dedicated Hi-Fi equipment. There has been and still >>> is >>> a >>> raging debate between the exponents of Vinyl and CD. For the most part >>> this >>> debate is purely subjective since it really depends on your preferred >>> listening experience. Some people like a very forward stereo image >>> while >>> others prefer the sound stage to be more set back behind the speakers. >>> I >>> have a friend who prefers his sound to be more recessed as I think it >>> gives >>> him a feeling of being in a concert hall, he is a great classical music >>> fan >>> and attends lots of concerts. Others enjoy a bright sound and yet >>> others >>> like firm and prominent bass. Promoters of the Vinyl will say that the >>> sound is much warmer while the supporters of CD will say that CD is much >>> more detailed all be it more clinical. The only way to compare what one >>> prefers is to go to a specialist, and any good specialist will always >>> recommend you listen to the product before purchasing and often have >>> listening rooms in order to let you have a choice of different >>> combination >>> of equipment. In truth, you really do get what you pay for. I remember >>> when I purchased a system some years ago; I was amazed just how by >>> changing >>> one amplifier for another, changed the sound quality. Even changing >>> something as basic as the interconnects made a huge difference. >>> Although >>> you can audition the equipment, it isn't the same as having it in your >>> own >>> home and if you have a good relationship with any particular dealer they >>> may >>> allow you to take the equipment home and listen to it in situ. So vinyl >>> versus CD is something each person must decide for himself or herself >>> but >>> bear in mind, Vinyl isn't as readily available as CD and it might take a >>> bit >>> of work tracking down the stuff your son is interested in. It is always >>> wise to purchase audio separates as these components are designed with >>> their >>> purpose in mind where as combination systems always have some compromise >>> whether it be the tuner, the CD player or the amplifier or speakers. As >>> for >>> the comparison between Hi-Fi components and PC or portable audio >>> devices, >>> in >>> my opinion there is no competition. Basically a PC is a storage system >>> and >>> although it has the means of playing audio files, that isn't it's main >>> purpose. You can get high quality sound cards but I fail to see how >>> a?300 >>> PC such as I am using now can compare with the ?1200 CD player on my >>> Hi-Fi >>> system. Another draw back is with file compression. MP3 files are the >>> result of the original sound file being compressed to 10% of it's >>> original >>> size and hence has quality loss. These files are fine for their purpose >>> but >>> for serious listening, they lack quality. I listen to these files on my >>> PC >>> fed through a mid range HI-Fi system but for really serious listening I >>> take >>> the CD down to the big system and let it rip. I think it really depends >>> on >>> what your son wants to do and what he will be happy with a couple of >>> years >>> down the road. I think I will conclude with an illustration; Both a >>> comfortable family car and a dump truck will get you from New York to >>> California but I ask you, which would you prefer to travel in? On the >>> other >>> hand if you wanted to transport lots of garbage to the local dump, which >>> vehicle would you rather use? If you want high quality sound >>> reproduction >>> then Hi-Fi separates is the route to take and the choice between CD and >>> vinyl is a matter of personal choice after comparing the options. If >>> you >>> want a mass storage system for your audio files with a reasonably >>> enjoyable >>> listening experience then a good PC with a high quality sound card fed >>> through a reasonable stereo system will do and you could enhance the >>> sound >>> quality by only listening to Wave files but that raises storage space >>> questions. I'm sorry this has went on a bit but it isn't the sort of >>> subject that merits a glib response. 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