This proves you should never overlook the simple things first. My sound card just wasn't showing up in windows because I just didn't have it seeded properly. I'm embarrassed to admit that. I did find other complex reasons why this could happen however so naturally I thought it was one of them since I never would make the mistake of not plugging hardware in properly. So you guys and girls can stop scratching your heads over this. Take care and thanks. Great list. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org