I also called numerous time to Verizon and it seems the Talks for the Ozone only allows you to do email, texting and navigating through menus, but not the Internet. At least, they say the Internet is not mentioned, like Gary said, and so we are all assuming that you cannot surf with the Talks version for the Verizon phone. If AT&TO allowed me to get reception where I am, I would opt for the Iphone, which apparently is fully accessible, but alas, Verizon enables me to get reception.

Sincerely,

Lauren
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.

Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows Mobile
and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the Symbian and
now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the Symbian versus Windows Mobile
version.

I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with anything
selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I think that's
the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a bit more. I suspect
the price is more the result of a deal made between Nuance and Verizon or
AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a stripped down version of
the screen reader is being sold.

--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com




-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question

Hi Lauren,

I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version.  That is probably
why they get away with selling it for the price they do.

Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but it
does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.

You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on the
Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract.  If you can afford
it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can purchase Mobile
Speaks.  I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the software to other
Smart phones in the future should you decide at some point to get another
phone.  Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.

Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to purchase,
which allows you some time to acquire the funds.  The company that I
purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase plan. They do
charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little easier if you
can't get the money at once.

You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone.  You do however,
need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails.  I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.

Any other questions are welcomed.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question


Hi Tim,

Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I choose
it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like accessing menus,
email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would really be great for
me!

The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do everything
and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake of buying a
Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone without any penalty because
of my disability.

Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.

Sincerely,

Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" <tim.mar...@state.nm.us>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question


Good morning List,

Here is the promised information.

A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
fully
accessible to blind people.  This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program.  The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract.  According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this.  Of
course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer.  I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an
alarm
or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.

I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a
few
issues.  It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the
Talks
program.  This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of
all
the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types
of
phones and different speech programs.  Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.

I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called:  Mobile Speaks.  This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's.  It
works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00.  I
was
able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer.  This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon.  I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.

Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
smart phones and with as many carriers.

I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from
Verizon
that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a
Data
package with your current plan.  A Data package gives you access to
the
Internet and E-mail from your phone.  This is not meant for everyone,
but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a
Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need.

If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this
list
or contact me off list at:

tim.mar...@state.nm.us

Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks
software.

http://www.codefactory.es

To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program,
also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks:

http://www.handytech.us/demos.html

Hope all this helps.

Sincerely,
Tim Martin


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