So if all you want to do is make some recordings possibly, listen to books
and music then the  blind-specific products like the xtreme and the ptr
pocket is still not a bad deal.


-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: 12 September 2009 07:42 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: More on the new Ipod Touch

The 32 gb model is slated to be $299 and the 64 gb is to be $399.  Their all
hung up for now with a problem with the camera module.  Could be this week
or a month before they really hit the market.
----- Original Message -----
From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: More on the new Ipod Touch


Wonder what this thing actually costs?

Would it be competition for e.g. thextreme or the plextalk pocket?



-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Constantine
Sent: 12 September 2009 04:53 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: More on the new Ipod Touch

Wow.

So - any apple haters have anything to say about this? Smiles.



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mac Norins" <macata...@cox.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: More on the new Ipod Touch


Totally amazing, if this works as advertised!  Can anyone imagine having a
tablet, say the size of a keyboard, that you could utilize like this?  I bet
they come out with that, next, then musical instruments, etc., etc.,etc.!
Kind of mind boggling!

-Mac-
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From: "Steve Pattison" <s...@internode.on.net>
To: "Access L" <acces...@access-l.com>; "PC Audio" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: Fwd: More on the new Ipod Touch


From:    Dane trethowan dane.tretho...@me.com
 To:      VIP L vi...@softspeak.com.au

Hi!

Here's a summary of the accessibility features and functions found on the
new Ipod Touch as taken from the Apple Web Site.


Vision
iPod touch includes a screen reader and other innovative accessibility
features that make it easier to use for those with impaired vision.
VoiceOver

The same VoiceOver screen reader made popular on the Mac and the iPhone is
now a standard feature on iPod touch (3rd generation). It's the world's
first gesture-based screen reader, enabling you to enjoy the fun and
simplicity of iPod touch even if you can't see the screen.
What makes VoiceOver on iPod touch remarkable is that you control it using
simple gestures that let you physically interact with items on the screen.
It's easy to learn and fun to use. Instead of memorizing hundreds of
keyboard commands or endlessly pressing tiny arrow keys to find what you're
looking for, with VoiceOver you simply touch the screen to hear a
description of the item under your finger, then gesture with a double-tap,
drag, or flick.
VoiceOver delivers an experience unlike any screen reader you've used
before. Traditional screen readers describe individual elements on the
screen, but struggle to communicate where each element is located or provide
information about adjoining objects. This contextual information is very
important but typically filtered out by other screen readers. For example,
"off-screen" models used by traditional screen readers to represent
applications and web pages intentionally strip away contextual information
and describe web pages as a list or menu of items. But with VoiceOver on
iPod touch, you'll experience something entirely new.
Because VoiceOver works with the touchscreen, you interact directly with
objects on the screen and can understand their location and context. So,
when you touch the upper-left corner of the screen, you'll hear what's in
the upper-left corner of a web page, and as you drag your finger around the
screen, you'll learn what's nearby, providing an amazing new sense of
context and relationships between the items you hear. For many, VoiceOver on
iPod touch will provide, perhaps for the first time, a true sense of not
only how things appear on the screen, but also descriptions of what they
are. You'll hear descriptions of every item, including status information
such as battery level, Wi-Fi signal levels, and time of day. iPod touch even
lets you know when the display changes to landscape or portrait, and when
the screen is locked or unlocked.
The speaking rate is adjustable so you can set it to a speed that best suits
your listening ability. VoiceOver uses distinctive sound effects to alert
you when an application opens, when the screen is updated, when a message
dialog appears, and more. And when VoiceOver is talking, the volume of
background sounds and music is automatically lowered, "ducking" under the
voice, so you can clearly hear what VoiceOver is telling you.

It Speaks Your Language
VoiceOver includes built-in voices that speak over 21 languages including
Bahasa Indonesian, Chinese (Cantonese), Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan),
Dutch, English (U.S.), English (UK), English (Australian), Finnish, French
(Canada), French (France), German, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Korean,
Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Portuguese (Portugal), Romanian,
Russian, Slovak, Spanish (Mexico), Spanish (Spain), Swedish, Thai, and
Turkish.
Getting Started
VoiceOver is built into iPod touch (3rd generation). There's nothing extra
to purchase or install. All you need is iPod touch, iTunes 9 or later, and a
Mac or PC. You can activate your iPod touch and enable VoiceOver without
sighted assistance using iTunes with a compatible screen reader like
VoiceOver (included in Mac OS X) or GW-Micro Window- Eyes for Windows XP and
Windows Vista (sold separately). When you activate iPod touch using iTunes,
you can enable VoiceOver to start using it right away. Or a sighted user can
enable VoiceOver for you directly on iPod touch using the Accessibility menu
in the Settings application.
How It Works
With VoiceOver enabled, you'll use a different but simple set of gestures to
control iPod touch. For example, instead of tapping to activate a button,
tap the button to hear a description of it, double- tap to activate it, and
swipe up or down to adjust a slider.
When an item on the screen is selected, a black rectangle called the
VoiceOver cursor appears around it. The VoiceOver cursor is displayed for
the benefit of sighted users with whom you may be sharing your iPod touch.
When you prefer privacy, VoiceOver includes a screen curtain that turns off
the display so no one can read it without your knowledge.
In addition to touching and dragging around the screen, you can also flick
left and right to move the VoiceOver cursor precisely to the next or
previous item on the screen - no matter how big or small it is. By flicking,
you have precise control of what you hear even when it might otherwise be
difficult to place your finger on it.

Practice Gestures
With the Practice Gestures setting on iPod touch, you can hone your
technique and learn new gestures. Or use Practice Gestures just to find out
what each gesture does. You can access Practice Gestures from the VoiceOver
preferences in Settings.
Entering Text
When you're typing text, such as an email message or a note, VoiceOver
echoes each character on the keyboard as you touch it, and again to confirm
when you enter it. You can also have VoiceOver speak each completed word
instead of or in addition to individual characters as you type them. A flick
up or down while typing moves the insertion point cursor left and right
within the text, so you can edit a word just as easily and precisely as
typing a new word.

To help you type more quickly and accurately, iPod touch features word
prediction and suggests the correct spelling when you type a word
incorrectly. With Speak Auto-text enabled, you'll hear a sound effect and
the suggested word spoken automatically. You can just keep typing to ignore
it, or press the Space key to have iPod touch type it for you.
The Rotor
VoiceOver features an innovative new virtual control called a "rotor."
Turning the rotor - by rotating two fingers on the screen as if you were
turning an actual dial - changes the way VoiceOver moves through a document
based on a setting you choose. For example, a flick up or down might move
through text word by word. But when you choose the "character" setting, each
time you flick up or down VoiceOver will move through the text character by
character - perfect when you're proofreading or editing text.
You can also use the rotor to navigate web pages. When you're on a web page,
the rotor contains the names of common items, such as headers, links, form
elements, images, and more. You select a setting, then flick up and down to
move to the previous or next occurrence of that item on the page, skipping
over items in between.
Cut, Copy & Paste
Cut, copy, and paste comes to iPod touch. To bring up cut, copy, and paste
options, use the rotor and choose Edit. Flick up or down to choose between
the Select and Select All functions, then double tap.
If you choose Select, the word closest to the insertion point is selected
when you double tap. Pinch to increase or decrease the selection. If you
choose Select All, the entire text is selected. When text is selected, cut,
copy, and paste options appear on the screen.
If you want to undo something, just give iPod touch a shake. You can also
flick left or right to choose the undo action, then double tap.
Applications
VoiceOver works with all of the built-in applications that come with iPod
touch, such as iPod, iTunes, Mail, Safari, and Maps. So you can surf the
web, text and email your friends, check your stocks and the weather, and
much, much more. Learn more

Voice Control
In addition to gestures, you can use your voice to play music. Just press
and hold the Home button, listen for the audio prompt, and speak the name of
the artist, album, or playlist you want to hear. You can pause, play, change
tracks, and even shuffle your music. Learn more Zoom

While many iPod touch applications let you zoom in and out on specific
elements such as images in Mail, or web page columns in Safari, Zoom lets
you magnify the entire screen of any application you're using to help you
see what's on the display. Zoom can be enabled on iPod touch using iTunes
when you're setting up iPod touch, for yourself or someone else, or later,
using the Accessibility menu in the Settings application on iPod touch.
Zoom works everywhere, including the Home, Unlock, and Spotlight screens -
even with applications you purchase from the App Store.
A simple double-tap with three fingers instantly zooms in and out 200%, and
you can double-tap and drag three fingers to adjust the magnification
between 100% and 500%. Even when the screen is zoomed, you can continue
using all of the familiar flick, pinch, tap, and other iPod touch gestures
to run your favorite applications. Zoom can also be used with White on Black
(reverse video) and Speak Auto-text.
White on Black

For those who need or prefer higher contrast, iPod touch provides an option
to change the display to White on Black. This reverse video effect works in
all applications, including the Home, Unlock, and Spotlight screens, and can
be used with Zoom and VoiceOver.
Triple-Click Home
Listeners can use the triple-click home key and set it to toggle VoiceOver
or White on Black, or ask you which one.
Speak Auto-text
When you're typing, iPod touch suggests a word before you finish typing it
or a correction when a word is misspelled. Speak Auto-text speaks these
suggestions so you can hear them when they're presented.
When the screen is zoomed, for example, the suggestion might not be visible,
but you can hear and accept it without seeing it. If you're using VoiceOver,
you won't have to interrupt your typing and touch the suggestion to hear it.
Speak Auto-text can be enabled even when you're not using VoiceOver or Zoom.
Tactile Buttons
iPod touch includes a few, easily discernible physical buttons used to
control it: the Sleep/Wake button, located on the top edge; the volume
control buttons, located on the upper-left edge; and the Home button,
centered below the display.

Giant Fonts for Mail Messages
For improved email readability, you can increase the font size of email text
from Medium (the default) to Large, Extra Large, or Giant.

iPod touch Earphones
The new 32GB and 64GB iPod touch models come with a stereo headset with a
high-performance microphone built into the cable. Plug it into the standard
3.5-mm stereo headphone jack and the headset lets you control music playback
by clicking the remote button.
Accessibility Add-ons for iPod touch
Several add-on products are also available for iPod touch that can help
those with hearing disabilities, including a hearing aid- compatible
induction ear loop from TecEar, wireless remote headset from Oticon, and
others.

******************************

Dane Trethowan
 From Melton Victoria Australia
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