not that i know
 of.
one thing i wonder though is why neil, never really does any microphone 
tests with  cheaper microphones that might be  in one point and time in a 
buddget  range for someone who is starting out.
I have tried many microphones as well. and  some of the more expensive ones 
do sound good; but in some cases i found that  some cheaper brands of 
microphones that people might pass over  cause of their small price of 
between three dollars and ten dollars actually do a better job in some 
respects of the more expensive ones.
 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "André van Deventer" <andred...@webafrica.org.za>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket 
ptp1version3.0firmwarenowavailable.


Depends what those updates are though.

I am quite aware of the fact that none of these recorders can record in wma
.  I don't think the xtreme  had the capability in the beginning also.

Now something completely different:  I would be most curious  to hear
recording tests  of the book sense.  The same discussion is actually going
on on a local list here in South Africa.  I know neil Ewers did some very
extensive tests with many of the other recorders with different microphones.
Does anyone know whether such tests have been done with the sense?

Thanx

Andre



-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: 09 October 2009 05:37 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1
version3.0firmwarenowavailable.

What's this crap.  You didn't see me anywhere say it wasn't a better
recorder.  I think I only said that the Stream could already play
unprotected wma, so I didn't think that was anything special about the
Plextalk Pocket.  Really I just wanted to know about the machine and
wondered why something that other machines could do for quite some time.
Now was special.  If I really wanted to get argumentative and unpleasant I
would have pointed out to him that a lot of people don't think that  updates
to the firmware is as good of a thing as he seems to think.
On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Sunshine wrote:

> well, compaired to the olympus recorders the stream is horid, in the
> recording aspect.
> but the plextalk pocket far surpasses the recording of any one of the
> olympus recorders.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Grady" <tgr...@cavtel.net>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version
> 3.0firmwarenowavailable.
>
>
> Well, the Stream can't record wma files, so I have no idea what you
> were comparing but is there a users list for the plextalk pocket?
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:07 AM, André van Deventer wrote:
>
>> The xtreme has been on the market much longer.
>>
>> And I heard some recordings made by the xtreme.  They're probably
>> even worse than that of the olympus.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-
>> audio.org] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>> Sent: 08 October 2009 10:33 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
>> firmwarenowavailable.
>>
>> Why do you say that about unprotected wma support?  The Stream has
>> had that for quite some time.
>> On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:13 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
>>
>>> I realise that some folks may think that some of are perhaps hyping
>>> this device a bit too much, but  I must say I am impressed by the
>>> frequency of update to the firmware of the pocket.  And I believe
>>> these are really meaningful changes especially the WMA support.
>>> Plextor definitely seems to have gotten it right on this one.
>>>
>>> Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-
>>> audio.org] On Behalf Of G-Dog
>>> Sent: 08 October 2009 01:14 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Fw: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
>>> firmwarenow available.
>>>
>>> FYI....G-Dog!
>>> plextalk pocket firmware.
>>> Release note
>>> 7 October, 2009
>>> PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 version 3 Released.
>>> Read more texts and books with fast navigation.
>>> PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Firmware Upgrade: Version 3 Shinano Kenshi Co.,
>>> Ltd.
>>> and Plextor are pleased to announce the release of PLEXTALK Pocket
>>> PTP1 new
>>> firmware, Version 3.
>>> Version 3 has added more format support: Microsoft Word .doc and WMA
>>> (Windows Media Audio)*.
>>> * Pocket PTP1 supports only unprotected WMA at present.
>>> The playable content/formats on PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Version 3 are:
>>> Daisy 2.02, ANSI/NISO Z39.86/DAISY 3.0, NLS, Bookshare, RFB&D TXT,
>>> HTML, DOC MP3, WAV, AMR-MB+, DAISY ADPCM2, OGG, WMA unprotected
>>> Version 3 has more simplified operation and is more intuitive such
>>> as:
>>> Faster key response,
>>> Option to suppress a key sound after pressing, Announce file/folder
>>> name as audio track/album name Automatic bookmark numbering More
>>> features have been added on Version 3 for your easy navigation,
>>> recording sound quality and others.
>>> 7 languages are available currently with Version 3 and other
>>> language versions will be released accordingly.
>>> For more details, please see the release note.
>>> [Pocket PTP1] Firmware Upgrade: Version 3.00 New Contents Support
>>> Microsoft Word .doc file support: To read a Microsoft Word .doc file
>>> on SD card or USB flash memory by the TTS engine. Pocket PTP1
>>> categorizes MS Word .doc in 'text'.
>>> WMA (Window Media Audio) support: To play back unprotected WMA
>>> format audio files on SD card or USB flash memory.
>>> Bookshare book playback improvement: To announce the title name of a
>>> Bookshare book.
>>> To navigate a Bookshare book by page properly.
>>> More Simplified and Intuitive Operations All key responses have been
>>> improved. A key confirmation sound or a voice prompt comes up more
>>> quickly after pressing a key (fast forward, rewind, level
>>> navigation, direct title/content jump, menu selection, etc.).
>>> New option to eliminate the sounds made after key press. On 'Select
>>> the Key Press Confirmation Sound' of 'System Settings' on the Menu,
>>> you can choose those sound 'On' or 'Off'
>>> Announce an album/track name of audio content. On 'Reading audio
>>> file name'
>>> of 'Playback
>>> Settings' of the Menu, you can choose the announcing options of
>>> either 'Read Album/Track Name' or 'Read Album/Track Number'. Pocket
>>> PTP1 announces a folder name where the audio content is stored as
>>> the album name, and a file name without the file extension as the
>>> track name of the audio content.
>>> Automatic bookmark numbering. If you do not want to determine the
>>> number of a bookmark you are going to set, just press the Bookmark
>>> Key twice then press the Enter Key, so Pocket PTP1 will
>>> automatically give the smallest bookmark number you were not using.
>>> If you press the '0' Key and the Enter Key after you press the
>>> Bookmark Key twice, Pocket PTP1 will also give you the smallest
>>> number automatically.
>>> Changed the title/folder/category announcements. When you select a
>>> title after pressing the Title Key, Pocket PTP1 makes simple
>>> announcements than the previous versions.
>>> And when you want to select a folder by pressing the 'Up' Key
>>> following the Title Key, Pocket PTP1 announces the folder name.
>>> Play text files more naturally when going to the next line.
>>> Changed the order of the items in 'System Settings' of the Menu.
>>> 'Initialize
>>> all settings to default' has been moved to the last item.
>>> More Powerful Navigation
>>> Added two navigation levels for text playback; 'line' and 'screen'.
>>> 1) Forty
>>> words or 2) less than forty words before a carriage return have been
>>> defined as a 'line'.
>>> Forty lines has been defined as a 'screen'.
>>> Now you can navigate a text file by screen, paragraph, line,
>>> sentence, word or character., and a DAISY title by heading (level 1
>>> to 6), group, page, phrase, screen, paragraph, line, sentence, word
>>> or character if such items are defined on the DAISY title.
>>> Added a DAISY-like level navigation feature for html files by
>>> recognizing H1 through
>>> H6 heading levels.
>>> Recording and Playing Feature Enhancement Improved the recording
>>> sound quality by MP3 for DAISY recording and voice memo.
>>> Added MP3 high-quality modes on 'Back-up' of music CD. After
>>> pressing the '9' Key to back up a music CD on a CD drive connected
>>> to Pocket PTP1, you can select
>>> 'MP3
>>> 256kbps high-quality' or 'MP3 128kbps high-quality' in addition to
>>> the previous modes,
>>> 'MP3 256kbps', 'MP3 128kbps' and 'PCM'. When you select either of
>>> the two modes, you can back up better sound quality music titles
>>> into a SD card.
>>> Please note that those modes need 20% to 90% more time to back up
>>> the music than the previous
>>> MP3
>>> modes.
>>> Enhanced the compatibility with variety of MP3 formats.
>>> To announce decryption key information on the Menu. After you
>>> install a key to decrypt a PDTB title (for example, books from NLS
>>> or RFB&D), you can check whether the key has been installed properly
>>> by hearing this announcement. The announcement is heard on 'System
>>> Properties' of 'System Settings' on the Menu.
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