with the newer firmware upgrade, the Plextalk pocket got just as good if not better than the Victor stream. it is more responsive than before, and if you have prepared books in the stream with the companion software, the Plextalk will recognize the folders and play them just fine.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <br...@ogts.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version3.0firmwarenowavailable.


My understanding is that the Book Sense does not have things like
talking level meters and so on. The Plextalk Pocket does. In my view
this fact alone makes it a superior choice.

Bruce


On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:20:45 -0400, "kathy szinnyey"
<joyfulreneg...@insightbb.com> said:
Just to add more to this mix, how is recording quality with the Booksense
as compared to the Plextalk? Anyone
know?

Peace,
Kathy

On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 09:35:26 -0500, Sunshine wrote:


>well, compaired to the olympus recorders the stream is horid, in the
>recording aspect.
>but the plextalk pocket far surpasses the recording of any one of the
>olympus recorders.
>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tim Grady" <tgr...@cavtel.net>
>To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:31 AM
>Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version
>3.0firmwarenowavailable.
>
>
>Well, the Stream can't record wma files, so I have no idea what you
>were comparing but is there a users list for the plextalk pocket?
>On Oct 9, 2009, at 2:07 AM, Andran Deventer wrote:
>
>>The xtreme has been on the market much longer.
>>
>>And I heard some recordings made by the xtreme.  They're probably
>>even worse
>>than that of the olympus.
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-
>>audio.org]
>>On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>Sent: 08 October 2009 10:33 PM
>>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>Subject: Re: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
>>firmwarenowavailable.
>>
>>Why do you say that about unprotected wma support?  The Stream has
>>had that
>>for quite some time.
>>On Oct 8, 2009, at 12:13 PM, Andran Deventer wrote:
>>
>>>I realise that some folks may think that some of are perhaps hyping
>>>this device a bit too much, but  I must say I am impressed by the
>>>frequency of update to the firmware of the pocket.  And I believe
>>>these are really meaningful changes especially the WMA support.
>>>Plextor definitely seems to have gotten it right on this one.
>>>
>>>Andre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-
>>>audio.org]
>>>On Behalf Of G-Dog
>>>Sent: 08 October 2009 01:14 PM
>>>To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>Subject: Fw: Blind Computer Users Plextalk Pocket ptp1 version 3.0
>>>firmwarenow available.
>>>
>>>FYI....G-Dog!
>>>plextalk pocket firmware.
>>>Release note
>>>7 October, 2009
>>>PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 version 3 Released.
>>>Read more texts and books with fast navigation.
>>>PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Firmware Upgrade: Version 3 Shinano Kenshi Co.,
>>>Ltd.
>>>and Plextor are pleased to announce the release of PLEXTALK Pocket
>>>PTP1 new
>>>firmware, Version 3.
>>>Version 3 has added more format support: Microsoft Word .doc and WMA
>>>(Windows Media Audio)*.
>>>* Pocket PTP1 supports only unprotected WMA at present.
>>>The playable content/formats on PLEXTALK Pocket PTP1 Version 3 are:
>>>Daisy 2.02, ANSI/NISO Z39.86/DAISY 3.0, NLS, Bookshare, RFB&D TXT,
>>>HTML, DOC
>>>MP3, WAV, AMR-MB+, DAISY ADPCM2, OGG, WMA unprotected Version 3 has
>>>more
>>>simplified operation and is more intuitive such as:
>>>Faster key response,
>>>Option to suppress a key sound after pressing, Announce file/folder
>>>name as
>>>audio track/album name Automatic bookmark numbering More features
>>>have been
>>>added on Version 3 for your easy navigation, recording sound quality
>>>and
>>>others.
>>>7 languages are available currently with Version 3 and other language
>>>versions will be released accordingly.
>>>For more details, please see the release note.
>>>[Pocket PTP1] Firmware Upgrade: Version 3.00 New Contents Support
>>>Microsoft
>>>Word .doc file support: To read a Microsoft Word .doc file on SD
>>>card or USB
>>>flash memory by the TTS engine. Pocket PTP1 categorizes MS Word .doc
>>>in
>>>'text'.
>>>WMA (Window Media Audio) support: To play back unprotected WMA
>>>format audio
>>>files on SD card or USB flash memory.
>>>Bookshare book playback improvement: To announce the title name of a
>>>Bookshare book.
>>>To navigate a Bookshare book by page properly.
>>>More Simplified and Intuitive Operations All key responses have been
>>>improved. A key confirmation sound or a voice prompt comes up more
>>>quickly
>>>after pressing a key (fast forward, rewind, level navigation, direct
>>>title/content jump, menu selection, etc.).
>>>New option to eliminate the sounds made after key press. On 'Select
>>>the Key
>>>Press Confirmation Sound' of 'System Settings' on the Menu, you can
>>>choose
>>>those sound 'On' or 'Off'
>>>Announce an album/track name of audio content. On 'Reading audio
>>>file name'
>>>of 'Playback
>>>Settings' of the Menu, you can choose the announcing options of
>>>either 'Read
>>>Album/Track Name' or 'Read Album/Track Number'. Pocket PTP1
>>>announces a
>>>folder name where the audio content is stored as the album name, and
>>>a file
>>>name without the file extension as the track name of the audio
>>>content.
>>>Automatic bookmark numbering. If you do not want to determine the
>>>number of
>>>a bookmark you are going to set, just press the Bookmark Key twice
>>>then
>>>press the Enter Key, so Pocket PTP1 will automatically give the
>>>smallest
>>>bookmark number you were not using. If you press the '0' Key and the
>>>Enter
>>>Key after you press the Bookmark Key twice, Pocket PTP1 will also
>>>give you
>>>the smallest number automatically.
>>>Changed the title/folder/category announcements. When you select a
>>>title
>>>after pressing the Title Key, Pocket PTP1 makes simple announcements
>>>than
>>>the previous versions.
>>>And when you want to select a folder by pressing the 'Up' Key
>>>following the
>>>Title Key, Pocket PTP1 announces the folder name.
>>>Play text files more naturally when going to the next line.
>>>Changed the order of the items in 'System Settings' of the Menu.
>>>'Initialize
>>>all settings to default' has been moved to the last item.
>>>More Powerful Navigation
>>>Added two navigation levels for text playback; 'line' and 'screen'.
>>>1) Forty
>>>words or 2) less than forty words before a carriage return have been
>>>defined
>>>as a 'line'.
>>>Forty lines has been defined as a 'screen'.
>>>Now you can navigate a text file by screen, paragraph, line,
>>>sentence, word
>>>or character., and a DAISY title by heading (level 1 to 6), group,
>>>page,
>>>phrase, screen, paragraph, line, sentence, word or character if such
>>>items
>>>are defined on the DAISY title.
>>>Added a DAISY-like level navigation feature for html files by
>>>recognizing H1
>>>through
>>>H6 heading levels.
>>>Recording and Playing Feature Enhancement Improved the recording
>>>sound
>>>quality by MP3 for DAISY recording and voice memo.
>>>Added MP3 high-quality modes on 'Back-up' of music CD. After
>>>pressing the
>>>'9' Key to back up a music CD on a CD drive connected to Pocket
>>>PTP1, you
>>>can select
>>>'MP3
>>>256kbps high-quality' or 'MP3 128kbps high-quality' in addition to
>>>the
>>>previous modes,
>>>'MP3 256kbps', 'MP3 128kbps' and 'PCM'. When you select either of
>>>the two
>>>modes, you can back up better sound quality music titles into a SD
>>>card.
>>>Please note that those modes need 20% to 90% more time to back up
>>>the music
>>>than the previous
>>>MP3
>>>modes.
>>>Enhanced the compatibility with variety of MP3 formats.
>>>To announce decryption key information on the Menu. After you
>>>install a key
>>>to decrypt a PDTB title (for example, books from NLS or RFB&D), you
>>>can
>>>check whether the key has been installed properly by hearing this
>>>announcement. The announcement is heard on 'System Properties' of
>>>'System
>>>Settings' on the Menu.
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