Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

[DJ DOCTOR P]

High Vicky,
Email me off list, and I will tell you about my audio center pc.
My best regards.
 John.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Victoria Vaughan" <vrvaug...@mailzone.com>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:19 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

Hoi, Would  you tell us what your new audio PC has in hardware and 
software, that might be different from the average computer?

Many thanks! Vicky
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


High Steeve,
That was the point I was trying to make, but I don't think he got it.
I am getting a new audio center pc, it too will have an M Audio sound 
card in it.
It will also come with DC7 audio editor and Microsoft Office, these docks 
mite help me to make this new computer do things my way.
I may not get it to work the way I want it to at ferst, but I will keep 
at it until I do.
My best regards.
John.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve S" <st...@crustysocks.com>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Check out www.hotspotclicker.org
It's a fantastic free program written for JFW by the snowman, who wrote 
the sound forge scripts,  that could possibly sort the inaccessibility 
out for you.  Don't be put off by the docs, it's much easier than it 
seems. I've just created a whole range of keystrokes in Sam broadcaster 
3with hot spot clicker, which has made it a breeze to work with.  It's 
an amazing piece of kit, that with a bit of application and work can 
bring accessibility to inaccessible apps, cheers Steve.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <djdoct...@att.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:28 AM
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


High all list members,
In the world of electronics, there is no such word as the word can't.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
I had an old computer that had an old M AUDIO sound card in it.
I couldn't get at the tone controls for the world using Jaws 6.1.
But I found a work around, I got someone in Daytona Beach Florida, to 
write scrip's for me to make the sound card do what I wanted it to do.
The same principle very well, could be applied to the Creative Lab 
sound cards.
Yes I agree the manufacturers should listen to the people that use 
their products, but that doesn't always happen.
This is why we have to be faithful for the people that are smart enough 
to find work arounds for us to use.
Try looking for a suitable solution before you give upon the problem.
My best regards to you all!
 John.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ok, how?  Seriously, I'm listening.

-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
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On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:56 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

yes they do work.
I use he creative card you use and i have no problem  getting into the
controls.  to change things.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


Ah but the real question is do they work or are we just settling?  Is 
our
money somehow less good than anybody elses?

-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Sunshine
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:33 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.

dave, i think you are going about this the wrong way, just because you 
have
had  trouble with creative products doesn't mean that you  should  try 
and
get others to switch away from something that works for them.
while the advancec controls aren't accessible to you at this time 
depending

on which screen reader you use maybe scripts could be made for the 
parts of

the creative product you have.
anyone want to comment on that one.
not trying to start an arguement but just pointing out something.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave McElroy WA6BEF" <d...@drakelroy.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Continuing saga of Creative Labs.


No, I have not made any progress.  I unloaded all things soundblaster 
and
Creative and still the card works, apparently using windows generic 
drivers.
Yet I still can't get access to the advanced controls.  Pam sent an 
email
from the web page on my behalf and of course there was no contact so 
today I
googled and found an Oklahoma City phone number where I got absolutely
nowhere.  I did get the corporate office phone number in the san Jose 
area,
but got no answer from their operator in spite of being on the phone
listening to it ring for probably half an hour.  So I just started 
punching
in extentions until I got an answer, someone named Breanna.  I 
expressed my
concdern about a whole population being shut out of the Creative Labs
product.  Will I get a return call?  Probably not.  Clearly, this is a
company that does not deserve our patronage.  Please reconsider if you 
are
thinking about buying Creative Labs.

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