The sound quality is supposed to be very good now, it wasn't all that long ago 
that I would have had no hesitation in steering clear of bluetooth for 
listening to stereo music.  Again, something I'm not all that familiar with 
right now but I soon will be!


On 20/01/2010, at 2:25 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:

> High Dain,
> I don't know how true this is, but I am told that with a Verizon Wireless 
> cell phone, you have to go in to the blue tooth menu.
> Then, you'd have to key in a password for the blue tooth device that you wish 
> to use with that cell phone.
> After that, it's all systems go.
> That's ok for a hands free device, but what about listening to music using 
> such devices?
> What I mean is, how good is the sound quality?
> John.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
> 
> 
>> I'm not an expert on this but I believe their to be devices around which 
>> take a signal from a bluetooth device such as an Iphone and will plug into 
>> the line in of an audio system, speakers and so on, I've seen reviews of 
>> them.
>> 
>> as for myself? Well I'm going to get a pair of dedicated bluetooth speakers, 
>> not saying that one approach is better than the other but that's what I'm 
>> doing.
>> 
>> As for needing sighted assistance to set up bluetooth devices? Well that's a 
>> bit of a funny area really, I all the bluetooth devices I've ever set up 
>> with my Iphone have been clearly identified by the phone so I've just had to 
>> confirm them and - in some cases - type in a pairing code on the Iphone 
>> which I've known in advance.
>> 
>> 
>> On 20/01/2010, at 1:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>> 
>>> High Dain.,
>>> Ok, so you can't pick it up with an fm receiver.
>>> But how does one get a blue tooth audio signal on his or her stereo system?
>>> John.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> <grtd...@internode.on.net>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 9:40 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> you're not missing anything and you're quite right as you can't, we 
>>>> started talking about bluetooth audio - which has nothing to do with FM 
>>>> transmitters - so that's why I canged the subject line, after all who 
>>>> wants to see a subject line talking about FM transmitters when someone's 
>>>> talking about Bluetooth?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> DJ DOCTOR P wrote:
>>>>> Hello all list members,
>>>>> I think I'm missing something here.
>>>>> But, how do you pick up a blue tooth transmition with an fm receiver?
>>>>> I'm just wondering where the missing links to the audio chain are here.
>>>>> John.
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk>
>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:31 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Audio bluetooth
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Ah cool.
>>>>>> Apple normally does a great job making a good out of the box experience 
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the user.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
>>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
>>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 12:03
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes! I think the Iphone uses the stereo transmission bluetooth profile by
>>>>>> default.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 9:39 PM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> The big problem here is that headsets and so on using Bluetooth uses
>>>>>>> the audio profile for mobile headsets and you're right it simply
>>>>>>> sounds really bad.
>>>>>>> There are, however, under the Bluetooth 2.1 standard a very nice
>>>>>>> profile for stereo transmition that most users will find sutable for
>>>>>> ordinary audio.
>>>>>>> At least you don't get this annoying hissing sound you always get with
>>>>>>> an fm transmitter. But if you're a real hifi freak you'd never want
>>>>>>> anything but good cables. :-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>>>>>> Sent: 19. januar 2010 09:42
>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio bluetooth
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My experience in the past has been that audio quality through
>>>>>>> bluetooth wasn't all that good, but I suspect that was my particular
>>>>>>> rig, since I see a lot of people listening to music via bluetooth. I
>>>>>>> found it was hard to use with JAWS too since the power saving features
>>>>>>> frequently had words being chopped off. I tended to use it for sports 
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than anything.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BTW, I recently got a new pair of stereo bluetooth headphones that I
>>>>>>> use with my cell phone, and although I haven't used it a lot to listen
>>>>>>> to music yet, the experience does seem to be better than my previous
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Christopher
>>>>>>> chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/19/2010 2:27 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>> That's true.  Now i don't know much about bluetooth though I'm
>>>>>>>> thinking of
>>>>>>> using it with my Iphone in the future with some speakers, a hands free
>>>>>>> kit and bluetooth headphones.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was under the impression that sound quality wasn't all that good
>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>> believe I can be proved wrong on that score now as its gone ahead in
>>>>>>> leaps and bounds! will see when the bluetooth speakers arrive!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2010, at 11:01 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> Not correct.
>>>>>>>>> Hifi vendors produce class 2 BT units that can transfer pure sound
>>>>>>>>> over a distance of 100 ft or more.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Tim Grady
>>>>>>>>> Sent: 18. januar 2010 15:03
>>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You can't do that as bluetooth has very limited range and is really
>>>>>>>>> meant for cell phone headsets, close range computer keyboards  and
>>>>>>>>> things like that.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ok,  what kind of blue tooth device can i use then to  stream to
>>>>>>>>>> all my stereo units in my home? then?
>>>>>>>>>> btw does anyone have a number for mobile black box?
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Brian Olesen"<br...@blindkom.dk>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 7:08 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>>> well go bluetooth instead of fm.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> From: "David McLean"<david.mcl...@cox.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:31 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I assume you have one of these units?
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2010, at 6:58 PM, Robert Nelson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The current version of this transmitter comes with a remote
>>>>>>>>>>>> control that allows  the frequency to be adjusted by pushing up
>>>>>>>>>>>> and down buttons.  The gain control is on the front rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>> back.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a good unit which you can leave on for days and weeks  and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the frequency will remain stable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you buy the high gain antenna and set it up properly, it will
>>>>>>>>>>>> transmit up to 300 yards without significant degradation of signal.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Nelson
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bob Seed"<bobs...@tbaytel.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: best fm transmitter
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitter, this is definitely the one!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Sunshine"<sunsh...@abe.midco.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: best fm transmitter
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am looking for an fm transmitter to use with the computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what  are the best ones to consider,a nd what are the prices,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and where can i buy them?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also what are your experiences with the units you have?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> grtd...@internode.on.net
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