That apsulootly the trooth, and the other thing that causes the same thing is the over prising of meedia. If someone can't aford it they will do what they have to do to have it. Mitchell
-----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of James Homuth Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:01 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download your copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no legal authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with that copy. Not only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even the most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my example of iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're now yours. Apple no longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn them to a CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true with BARD. And it's business models like that that convince people to do things you would call stealing. -----Original Message----- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell Sent: April 18, 2010 11:51 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mitchell" <mitchellgre...@gmail.com> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > That's absulootly rite, but after you qualify for the servis, and down > load > the file you still don't return it so if this all rite then how is tom or > anyone who has someone's pramition to coppy a fyle then how is it > steeling? > Mitchell > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of James Homuth > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried > limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on in > the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same > reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands on > something, whether you have legal access to do so or not, you're going to > want to do whatever you want with that something. Either put it on a CD, > or > copy it to something smaller than your Victor Reader, or any number of > things. And if someone wants to burn that book to a CD, or do something > else > with it that BARD has decided they're not allowed to, even though they > have > legal access to it, people are just going to find less legal means to do > so. > Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people > should > be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest of the world > and actually give people a choice as to what to do with their > acquisitions. > > -----Original Message----- > From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] > On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell > Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing > > But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify for > their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. > There > is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare type > services. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mitchell" <mitchellgre...@gmail.com> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > >> I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use >> bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books. >> Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am >> concerned. >> Mitchell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org >> [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] >> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing >> >> Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing." >> Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you >> download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it? >> Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and >> audio books without having to pay a dime for it. >> Explain that one to me, if you can! >> John. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom" <t...@pc-audio.org> >> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM >> Subject: It's Still Stealing >> >> >>> It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to >>> copy it. >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> ** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P ** >>> >High Tom, >>> >I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to >>> do it. >>> >If he says yes, then I do it. >>> >But if he says no, then it doesn't happen. >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
