Yeah, they have that in them. I use to have a PTR2 but it got damaged. I
loved it. I still do. It's just all the limitations that we've discussed
thus far are what makes me hesitate on getting on. Especially since IRTI
still wants $895 for it. If they'd only drop the price then maybe. All
though the BP DT sounds cool. It can record DAISY 3 books too if I
understand correctly.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Aidan
Maher
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 3:11 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer

I don't have one, but I am thinking of getting one, so I guess that those
things like auto gain is now equal to the bpp and pocket anyway.
But people are generally now going to be motivated to go more for the
desktop bookport anyway because of the hardware and price differences.

On 11/03/2013, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yep, think about this, the small BP is essentially the PTP1. AKA, the 
> Pocket with more stuff. You wish they could update what again? If the 
> PTR2, I think it has to be reforged. I don't really know though. The 
> CF card thing for instance, wouldn't firmware fix that? I forgot to 
> ask the tech support guy about that. But they do have to reforge it 
> physically to make it USB 3.0 for instance. Yes, go 3.0 and get it 
> over with. Heck make it a Blu-ray writer whilst you're at it too. 
> That's what I'd do. Oh yeah, and make it actually be able to write 
> DAISY or what ever to Blu-ray. Then $895 might be worth it.
> Think of the Books you can put on a Blu-Ray disk, especially a 50GB one.
> How
> about some lite scribe hmmmmm? How do those ideas grab you? Then to 
> sweeten the deal, add on all the new stuff. The wireless stuff, the 
> internet radio and so on. That would be one cool PTR unit. I don't 
> know if they would call it a PTR3 if they did that. But it would be 
> cool though. Remember this, the only reason according to Mike Lang for 
> the PTR2 was the led thing. So, it's like some people say about Vista 
> VS. Win 7. Win 7 is what Vista should have been. The PTR2 is what the 
> PTR1 could and should have been. No more, no less unfortunately. What 
> a miss of a chance. They could have made it USB 2.0 right there on the 
> spot, they could have opened the limit on memory size for the CF 
> cards, you know there are 32 GB ones. Pluss, ready it for Ultra II 
> cards. They missed on so many points. How sad when you really think 
> about it. But oh well, at least we have the BP DT. I hope the pre amps 
> are as good or better then the PTR2, and I hope they brought down the 
> floor noise as well as inproved the Auto Gane Controll.  It was and is 
> too week on the PTR2. Especially with cheep mikes. Have you tried one? 
> A Book Port Desk Top that is?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Aidan Maher
> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:46 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>
> Yes, I also wish they could update it again. But yes aph just use the 
> plextalk firmware wich they customize a little bit.
>
> On 10/03/2013, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep, that's what I thought when I first heard of the Book port Desk Top.
>> For
>> thoughs who wander what the DT stands for. Um I guess it may even 
>> some what feel like a PTR 2 from what someone hinted at on the 
>> Accessible Devices podcast? Interesting if it is so. After all I 
>> guess APH has teemed up with the Plextalk guys. So, I guess that in 
>> some respects, the BP DT is a PTR3 so to speak. I just wanted to see 
>> what people thought. There must be enough people buying the PTR2 as 
>> is though if they continue to sell it as is and not modernize it. 
>> It's not fair though since they want the same amount of money as in 2006.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Aidan Maher
>> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 10:10 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>
>> Wel, maybe something to add here is that if this is the case with 
>> ptr2, then maybe it might be better to go for the bookport dt model 
>> instead, as it offer many of the ptr2 features with some extras and 
>> of corse newer hardware, and also alot cheaper. Just a thought.
>>
>> On 10/03/2013, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yep you're probably right. I used Amazon don't forget. The card 
>>> these recorders want aren't in stores any more.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>> Aidan Maher
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 5:48 PM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>
>>> Wel, its not dollar forty in all regions, and also, the prices for 
>>> sd cards compared to some of these cards are very simular. Wel in my 
>>> region at least.
>>> So it depend I guess.
>>>
>>> On 09/03/2013, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Maybge so. But come on, $40 for a 4 GB card? I mean, the geek in me 
>>>> would and I kind of want to. We'll see I guess.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Aidan Maher
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:40 PM
>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>>
>>>> Yeh, I get what you say in many ways, I do feel however that why do 
>>>> they stil make the machine if it might not be so much in use anymore.
>>>> They don't update the hardware either. But I think if you no why 
>>>> you want it and if you no you can use it alot its stil werth the 
>>>> money, but you rite that most people will have to compare the 
>>>> amount of money with what they get for it. But I guess if you buy 
>>>> the sandisk cards, chances for locking up is maybe less, although I 
>>>> couldn't test
>> that.
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2013, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Oh yeah, you can find them alright. But when you want to get one 
>>>>> for the
>>>>> PTR2 it gets harder. I'll tell you abit why just so as not to leav 
>>>>> you hanging, but I won't go too deep as it maybe off topic. But 
>>>>> perhaps
>>> not.
>>>>> Here it is. Basicly the problem is this, heck you can buy them at 
>>>>> staples but it's the ultra 2 ones. The PTR1 and 2 want either type
>>>>> 1 or 2. They don't like Ultra 2. They lock up when you put one in.
>>>>> That's the company's falt though. I don't get why the PTR2 didn't 
>>>>> accept type Ultra 2 cards since it came out in 2005 I think. Or 
>>>>> was it 6? Is it too little too Late? Is that something that they 
>>>>> could still fix with firmware if they chose to? Or would they have 
>>>>> to reforge the
>>>>> PTR2 to put a new card reader in it? The cards are essentially the 
>>>>> same but for speed. Like I said, Amazon has them, or at least 2, 
>>>>> but one I'm not sure of, and the Sandisk one is $40 for only 4 GB.
>>>>> IS it just me or does any one here agree that $40 is a little too 
>>>>> much for only 4GB. I actually wander about this too, and this 
>>>>> maybe another topic for a whole new thread. Is something like the 
>>>>> PTR2 even worth buying anymore?
>>>>> Or
>>>>> is it just just for mastaljicreasons. You know what I mean? It's 
>>>>> just cool, one may just love it just because and for almost just 
>>>>> collection purposes you may want one. But it's $895. With all the 
>>>>> limitations and let's be honest, dying or dead tech in it, is $895 
>>>>> to get it  from IRTI even fair anymore? I don't know if anyone 
>>>>> wants to debate this or least make their views known, but there 
>>>>> you have mine.
>>>>> But yeah, to get off the sope box and back to the main point, you 
>>>>> can find the cards, but it's not guarantied the ones you may find 
>>>>> will
>> work.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Aidan Maher
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:30 AM
>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>>>
>>>>> Those compact flash cards are still available. They not the latest 
>>>>> and the greatest but stil you can find them, I don't no in the US 
>>>>> where to go but in my region they stil available.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/03/2013, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ah yeah. I don't recall the PTR2 having one. Very interesting. I 
>>>>>> had a
>>>>>> PTR2 once, It's gone now though. Ah the goodold PTR2. Sometimes I 
>>>>>> want to buy another one but come on, $895 for something that the 
>>>>>> cards don't exist for any more almost? You can find a select few 
>>>>>> on Amazon, but who's to say they'll really work? Pluss, like you 
>>>>>> said, the LS 100 does better quality recording anyways. It does 
>>>>>> HD. But part of me still loves the good old PTR2.
>>>>>> But I digress, point is, that's cool man. I don't the PTR2 having 
>>>>>> it, but if it does that's cool. The PTP1 does now you remind me 
>>>>>> of it.
>>>>>> But I forgot.
>>>>>> Very interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
>>>>>> Of Don Ball
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 12:54 AM
>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well all I know is that the custom settings have both a start 
>>>>>> time and an end time. and there are other options like sound
detection to.
>>>>>> Now I don't know how reliable any of that is as I don't use those 
>>>>>> features. In fact sense I got my ls 100 I don't use the pocket 
>>>>>> for recording much at all. I know that both the ptr2 and the 
>>>>>> pocket had those features. try them out and see.
>>>>>> There is a clock on there for some reason.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Hamit Campos" <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 11:50 PM
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, thanks for letting us know that. I at least did not know that.
>>>>>>> Weight, are you sure? What he wants is where you say I want you 
>>>>>>> to start recording at 7 and stop at 10 for instance. What I 
>>>>>>> remember plextalks having is where you either have it start as 
>>>>>>> soon as you hit the button, or when it hears some thing. Note 
>>>>>>> the sound detection thing didn't really work all that well from 
>>>>>>> what I've
> seen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf 
>>>>>>> Of Don Ball
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 7:44 PM
>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the pocket can do this. during the custom recording setup it 
>>>>>>> will ask you for start times and end times.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Donald L. Roberts" <donald.robert...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:14 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Handheld recorder with recording timer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am wondering whether any of the hand held devices such as but 
>>>>>>>>not limited to the  VR Stream, the Plextalk pocket, and the Hims 
>>>>>>>>units have some form of a  recording  timer.
>>>>>>>> Often, I wish to record something from the TV or the radio a 
>>>>>>>>program which  airs late at night, and I do not wish to  change 
>>>>>>>>everything around so as to connect to my computer. Presently, my 
>>>>>>>>only other option is a talking VCR which is already obsolete, 
>>>>>>>>and at some point can  no longer  be repaired.  So, please tell 
>>>>>>>>me if other such options are available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don Roberts
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