The trouble with Logitech stuff is that you can never be sure just how good your device will actually be when you buy it.
For example, the Logitech Squeezebox Boom Duet, and Radio units I have are absolutely first class. I bought a pair of Logitech USB headphones and the damn things fell to bits, the cord started curling and eventually perrished. I bought a Logitech Bluetooth Boombox and found to my annoyance that they'd cheapened it, whilst it sounded very nice on power it sounded bloody awful on its rechargeable battery, only about a quarter of the power for the amps on battery compared to what you'd get with power. Articles in computer related journals of late have highlighted how Logitech are further cheapening their range so that can only mean less quality control, more shortcuts etc. I've bought a couple more Logitech devices that I could tell you about but I think that's enough to illustrate my point <smile>. Its a shame because - as I've already stated - some of the stuff that company produced was absolutely top notch, even their airPlay speaker sounds God Damn Awful. On 23 Feb 2014, at 11:08 am, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > Hi! > Yes, i am not sure but i have a logitech hw800 which is both bluetooth and > also has a small transmitter that fits into the computers usb port. > Atleast to me they're very very nice. > /A > 23 feb 2014 kl. 00:57 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: > >> No problem and your thoughts are noted and points taken <smile>. >> >> Of course its a general comment you made isn't it because there are - as I >> have been reminded - exceptions to the rul, more and more people are using >> FLAC or other Lossless compression to store their music for example, people >> are rediscovering the true and straight forward Hi-Fi amp and nice speakers, >> not many I grant you but the market is still there. >> >> I chose airPlay and other Wi-Fi protocols over Bluetooth because of the >> better streaming quality you get though with Bluetooth 4.0 and above its >> very close. >> >> On 23 Feb 2014, at 10:51 am, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> Young people just want to listen to music at the highest volume possible. >>> Atleast heere in sweden. >>> Note that this is my thoughts so its not a statement. >>> The sad thing with hifi products here is that they're to expensive for my >>> budget so i can't aford most of the things i really want. >>> /A >>> 22 feb 2014 kl. 20:36 skrev Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>: >>> >>>> I heard the Bowers And Wilkins yesterday morning, I listened to their 3 >>>> airPlay models, all of which were superb! >>>> >>>> I listened to some floor standing and bookshelf models and again just >>>> outstanding and so was the price <smile>, a little out of my budget, I'll >>>> be able to afford the Z2 and I actually think it very good value for money >>>> given its sound and straight forward design, compact size etc. >>>> >>>> Incidentally, I know people in the States who say that high end audio >>>> shops are just about extinct there, is that true? Things seem to be going >>>> that way over here too and that's a crying shame as so many of the younger >>>> generations just aren't going to know what quality sound is, quality sound >>>> is not! listening to an iPod connected to a Bluetooth speaker that fits in >>>> your hand, listening to music through a pair of Plantronics headphones etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 Feb 2014, at 6:31 am, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well I can say they were definitely here in the US in 1996 which is when >>>>> I auditioned several B&W speakers. They may have gone away for a while >>>>> and now coming back again. At any rate, they make a fantastic product and >>>>> I probably would have gotten all B&W speakers instead of Klipsch if I >>>>> could have afforded it. They were just a little too far out of my budget. >>>>> Their best attribute IMHO is their transparency. Very natural sound with >>>>> fantastic imaging. I'm glad to hear they are making another push into >>>>> this market over here. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Rick alfaro >>>>> >>>>> On 2/22/2014 2:19 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>> Right, well I don't know what the definition of "Quite Some time" is, I >>>>>> read a review on the speakers - I'll link to it on list in another eMail >>>>>> - which suggested that Bowers And Wilkins were new comers to the audio >>>>>> market in the U.S.A., I suppose the reviewer was making a comparison >>>>>> between B&W and other well established names such as Polk Audio, Boston >>>>>> Acoustics, Altec Lansing, Bose and so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Incidentally did anyone read that Altec Lansing is no more? Plantronics >>>>>> have taken them over so I wonder what that will all mean. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Feb 2014, at 5:50 am, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually, B&W has been here in the NA market for quite some time but as >>>>>>> you said, only found in top notch high end stereo shops. My center >>>>>>> channel for my home theater system is B&W. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have all Klipsch speakers except for my sub which is a Velodyne and >>>>>>> my B&W center. I specifically chose the B&W because I didn't like the >>>>>>> Klipsch center. In fact, my sub was going to be B&W as well but I >>>>>>> returned it because it kept bottoming out and making a flapping sound >>>>>>> that was just weird so I exchanged it for the Velodyne which is a 12" >>>>>>> active sub with a 15" passive radiator. This was several years ago and >>>>>>> I haven't upgraded any of the speakers because the system sounds just >>>>>>> the way I like it. It's a better experience watching a BlueRay movie >>>>>>> here in my living room than in the movie theater except for the iMax >>>>>>> ones of course. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick alfaro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2/22/2014 2:05 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>>>> I've not heard those speakers so can't make specific comments but >>>>>>>> hearing the B & W Z2 was like hearing some Bose for the first time, >>>>>>>> upgrading from a pair of Plantronics Audio 478 headphones to a pair of >>>>>>>> Grado Labs SR60I audiophile headphones or say moving from USB 2.0 to >>>>>>>> USB 3.0, in other words now you've experienced the difference you >>>>>>>> can't go back and I urge anyone to hear these B&W speakers to fully >>>>>>>> appreciate what we're talking about here, B*&w aren't the sort of >>>>>>>> thing you're going to find at your local Radio Shack or Wallmart and I >>>>>>>> can only add its a pity that other speakers readily available aren't >>>>>>>> equal to B&W, would be a near perfect world if they were. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course B&W and the only company doing this sort of stuff and their >>>>>>>> entry into the North American market has been recent though they've >>>>>>>> been making speakers in the U.K. for donkeys years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> B&W are in the same league as Polk Audio, Boston Acoustic and so forth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 22 Feb 2014, at 9:52 am, Walter Ramage <w...@blueyonder.co.uk> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi. If these speakers are anything like the B & W CM5 stand mount >>>>>>>>> speakers >>>>>>>>> or the CM9 floor standing speakers then you won't be sorry. I have >>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>> liked B & W speakers as they have a vary balanced sound and have a >>>>>>>>> very good >>>>>>>>> bass response, they are also spacious and imiging is very accurate. >>>>>>>>> Ihave >>>>>>>>> the CM 5s to listen to music or radio via my PC and downstairs are >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> floor standing CM9s which are very impressive. Good luck with your >>>>>>>>> purchase >>>>>>>>> but as it is B & W, there won't be much luck needed. Walter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> Dane >>>>>>>>> Trethowan >>>>>>>>> Sent: 21 February 2014 22:45 >>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>>>>>> Subject: iPhone Dock: The Choice Has Been Made >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yep folks, I've finally decided what Dock I'm going to buy, I'm after >>>>>>>>> a new >>>>>>>>> one given that I no longer have any IOS devices with 30 Pin connectors >>>>>>>>> though the only problem there is I have 3 units with 30 pin dock >>>>>>>>> connectors, >>>>>>>>> I'd be absolutely raging! if those devices couldn't be put to other >>>>>>>>> uses and >>>>>>>>> were only useless 30 pin docks <smile>. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My decision has come down to the Bowers & Wilkins Z2 iPhone >>>>>>>>> dock/airPlay >>>>>>>>> speaker though I warn everyone now, the price for one of these >>>>>>>>> gorgeous >>>>>>>>> things is not cheap, at around $400 but - from what I've heard - its >>>>>>>>> certainly well worth the money spent. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Z2 sports a 9 pin Lightning connector, has an Aux-in socket and >>>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>> used with airPlay. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'll write more when the device arrives and I can test it with my >>>>>>>>> Wi-Fi >>>>>>>>> network etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>>>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>>>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! 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