This is true. I remember listening to an interview with an audio engineer who 
was describing recording a boys choir in a cathedral in England. He said they 
used 35 microphones but ultimately once it was mixed into a stereo recording it 
just didn't compare to what it would sound like live.
Frank

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Trethowan
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Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound

Even so, music for the most part is not recorded to take advantage of the 
concert hall effect, even on our classical stations here its just recorded in 
plain old fashioned stereo and I ought to know <smile>.


On 27 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Yes, of course, the audio source is on the stage, which is in front of 
> you. But your living-room does not come close to approximating the 
> dimensions of even a small concert hall. So that's where the dsp and 
> magic of multiple speakers comes in. I don't pretend to know how they 
> do it. But I know that even my old ADS analog time delay system did 
> wonderous things for lps of classical music. It came a lot closer to 
> the concert hall experience than just a two-channel set up in my 
> living-room.
> 
> Mary
> 
> On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:30:11 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> 
>> What you say about the concert hall is right however, in a concert hall the 
>> audio is usually in the front of you, that's where the stage is as far as 
>> I'm away so that's where the audio usually comes from.
>> 
>> The same applies when listening in stereo, the speakers are usually in front 
>> of you for good stereo listening.
>> 
>> The old analogue Surround-Sound? I still have my original Denon AVR2000 
>> which supported all the Quad modes for front left-right and rear left-right 
>> but for the most part the recordings made were not true surround-sound or 
>> quad back then, some sort of DSP was needed to decode the source to generate 
>> the effect.
>> 
>> We've progressed to the point where each channel - in true Surround-Sound or 
>> Quad mode - has its own path to each speaker which was unheard of say 20 
>> years ago.
>> 
>> If you look at the more expensive Surround-Sound receivers you may even see 
>> direct analogue connections for each channel, the cheaper receivers use the 
>> HDMI connection to decode each channel digitally.
>> 
>> I have a whole heap of CD'S - SACD, Quad and Video Audio - which make full 
>> use of the direct channel paths, the Quad CD'S I did myself, I mastered them 
>> from Quad Carts - the old 8 track cartridges, versions of them came out that 
>> used a track for each channel in the quad recording -.
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 May 2014, at 12:21 pm, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time.
>>> Indeed, most of my experience was with an analog system years ago, 
>>> made by ADS. And it was awesome. I also had the Carver sonic 
>>> holography unit, which was good, but not as good as the ads, which 
>>> actually required two speakers in the rear. The thing is, if you 
>>> like classical music, full orchestra etc, there is no way you get 
>>> anything approaching a concert hall experience with two stereo 
>>> speakers, unless there is some magic happening in the background, 
>>> ala the Carver holography. I have been impressed with Polk Audio in 
>>> the past and also with the Magna planar speakers, which I really 
>>> wanted in the worst way. Talk about 3-dimensional sound! But the 
>>> listening environment demanded by that set up is not one that your average 
>>> guy or gal can manage. That's why I'
>>> m intrigued by sound bars and various digital signal processing 
>>> techniques. I want to simulate the concert hall experience in my 
>>> living-room. And 2 speakers will never do that.
>>> 
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Dane Trethowan
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>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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