A few years ago, similar performance to the 4770 or 4790 chips could only be obtained with a computer with a liquid cooling system as the chips ran so hot. Let’s hope the next generation of high performance chips after Haswell does not require liquid cooling.
Kelly On 7/6/14, Brent Harding <br...@hostany.net> wrote: > I thought I heard awhile now that they hit a plateau where they can't get > higher ghz ratings without significantly more heat being generated. I wonder > > if they will go to something like quad, 6, and 8 core ones, which probably > means you can do more things at a time without it seeming to slow down. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Olesen" <br...@blindkom.dk> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 3:34 AM > Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate? > > >> Hi, >> wow Really great story! Thanks. >> The fourth generation I7 CPUs mostly focus on the graphics part and in >> other terms only gains 7 % more performance over the third generation. So >> >> it doesn't really matter weather you have a 3. generation chip or not >> especially if you're using a deticated graphics card. >> I don't know the specs for the fifth generation, but I expect it to be >> cool! >> I've always been a fan of Intel since the 8086. grin >> >> Regarding Windows. Hmm I'm very satesfied with Windows 7 even though I'm >> running windows 8.1 on afew of my machines. It's not that I don't like >> windows 8. It's more that I don't feel I get much interesting new stuff >> from it. >> >> best regards >> Brian >> >> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- >> From: Kelly Pierce >> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:18 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate? >> >> Hamit, >> >> The Dell XPS 8700 purchase was two years in the making. I had a >> Pentium 4 computer that I bought in 2004 running Windows XP. I was >> unimpressed with Windows 7 when it was released in 2009 and soon heard >> about new technology that would be the next generation of innovation >> in personal computers. Specifically, this included USB 3, flash hard >> drives, and faster processors from Intel. In September 2011, my >> computer stopped working. Thank god for external backup drives. I >> decided to wait until the upcoming windows 8 so I could have a >> computer with the latest technology. I bought a used HP D530C from >> Chicago Surplus Computer for $85 to tide me over until the next >> generation of computing arrived. As we all know, the initial windows 8 >> rollout was a disaster, particularly for the screen reader user. The >> interface was too futuristic for most. Microsoft regrouped and >> delivered the vastly improved Windows 8.1 last fall. >> >> To my delight, Intel opened a store here in Chicago in late November >> to display products from its vendors and inform the public about its >> processors. I learned there how a computer choice starts with the chip >> and learned about the fastest chip for desktop computers. I searched >> around and found that a local outlet of a computer superstore chain >> was selling a customized version of the Dell 8700. The computer had a >> 256 GB solid-state drive along with a 2 Tb regular rotating hard >> drive, loads of USB 3.0 jacks, 24 GB of RAM along with the fast Intel >> 4770 chip. It was everything I wanted and much more. I raced to the >> store on December 26 with a bad cold to snatch it before it was bought >> by someone else. >> >> Now, the Intel 4770 is no longer the fastest. It has been surpassed by >> the 4790, an incremental upgrade. The next big boost in performance >> will be with the next generation of Intel processors that will be >> released either later this year or in the first half of next year. >> When this new generation of processors is combined with Windows 9, we >> can enjoy the next generation of desktop computing. We are now in a >> transition period between the Haswell processors and Windows 8.1 to >> the new generation of Intel processors and Windows 9. If you can wait >> until next year, you will likely be pleased at the performance you can >> obtain for the money. >> >> The Roland Duo Capture audio interface can be bought at a number of >> outlets that sell professional audio equipment. I believe I have the >> model before the current shipping version. Mine cannot support >> recording from an iPhone or iPad while the current shipping version >> can. The eBay offering sold for a more than 80 percent discount than >> the current shipping version. The drivers for it though support >> Windows 8.1. >> >> If I were to pay full price, I would actually purchase the Roland Quad >> Capture audio interface. It is just $70 more than the full retail >> price of the Roland Duo Capture and has a few more worthwhile >> features. It has a maximum capacity of 192,000 samples for recording. >> The Duo Capture’s upper limit is 44,100 samples. Both support 24-bit >> audio though. Useful functionality for the blind computer user is the >> Auto-Sens function that intelligently sets optimal input levels for >> both of the unit’s pre-amps. Roland Quad Capture is the audio >> interface personally used by Bill McCann, the founder and President of >> Dancing Dots, on his machines. When I spoke with Bill earlier this >> year about the two audio interfaces, it seemed I was more impressed >> with the Auto-Sens functionality than he was. Yet, how could I >> disagree with the wise master, who has set his own levels on audio >> devices for decades, for his exquisite audio choice given that he >> handles and listens to these devices every day. >> >> Talk to you later. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> >> On 7/5/14, Kelly Pierce <kellyt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Petro, >>> >>> A driver needs to be installed on the computer each time it is plugged >>> into a USB jack. This likely would be once for a home-based computer. >>> The installer for the driver has one button that cannot be recognized >>> by JAWS in Windows 8.1. It took a sighted person less than 30 seconds >>> to find the button on the screen and activate it with the mouse >>> though. Once the driver is installed, all of its properties can be >>> adjusted with JAWS. In addition, all the controls on the unit are >>> tactile and are either toggle buttons or volume sliders. When the >>> toggle buttons are pressed, they are depressed so a blind person or a >>> sighted person in a dark location can tactilely feel if the button is >>> activated. >>> >>> I hope this has been helpful. >>> >>> Kelly >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 7/5/14, Petro Giannakopoulos <petro...@clear.net> wrote: >>>> Is this Roland unit plug n play? No software and does it have controls >>>> on >>>> it? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:56 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Is Integrated Sound Adequate? >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve, >>>> >>>> It all depends on the kind of system you have and the fussiness of >>>> your ears. At the end of last year, I bought a Dell 8700 computer with >>>> the Intel i7 4770 processor, the fastest chip on the market at the >>>> time. It had built-in HD audio. When the Dell pre-amp was configured, >>>> the audio sounded as good as the M-Audio 24/96 sound card I bought 10 >>>> years ago with the highly regarded Casio drivers. The computer came >>>> with separate jacks for a quadrophonic speaker setup as well as 5.1 >>>> audio in addition to the regular jacks for traditional stereo, line in >>>> and microphones. Computers with less sophisticated microprocessors >>>> may not have as many options or HD audio. >>>> >>>> That said, I want one sound card for the screen reader and one sound >>>> card for audio playback and recording. To that end, I bought a Roland >>>> Duo USB audio interface for $37 on eBay. It normally retails for $200. >>>> Dancing Dots recommends this audio interface to its customers using >>>> Windows computers. The company is the leader in accessible music and >>>> audio production by the blind. The audio from the Roland interface >>>> sounds real and lifelike and instruments are more distinct than the >>>> integrated sound card. This should be no surprise as the audio is >>>> processed outside the machine in a different cycle from the computer. >>>> Try as they do, Intel and Dell cannot deliver in a mass-market product >>>> the quality that audio focused companies have been doing for years. If >>>> you just listen to spoken word audio and popular music, the integrated >>>> card could be acceptable. If you like listening to classic jazz >>>> performances, classical music, or instrumental music and deejay or >>>> stream capture or edit audio on your PC, then a second sound card or >>>> an audio interface is needed. For a lousy $37, including shipping, why >>>> is anyone anguishing and spending precious brain cells on such an >>>> obvious decision. >>>> >>>> Kelly >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/5/14, Sunshine <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> wrote: >>>>> can you give us a sample of this cards sound quality? >>>>> On 7/5/2014 4:16 AM, Brian Olesen wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> About $ 700 >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Sunshine Sent: Saturday, July >>>>>> 05, 2014 10:15 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Is >>>>>> Integrated Sound Adequate? >>>>>> how much does the sound card you use cost ? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/5/2014 3:10 AM, Brian Olesen wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>>>> The audio on one of the better motherboards today is fine for most >>>>>>> use. But when we speak hifi quality high bit rates, and real good >>>>>>> sound you'd still need a deticated sound card with better cerkitry. >>>>>>> I use a pretty expensive audio card from RME called Babyface which >>>>>>> sounds amazing, but i'm fully sattesfied with the build in sound >>>>>>> card >>>>>>> of my laptop for everyday use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> Brian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- From: Steve Pattison >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:29 AM >>>>>>> To: PC Audio >>>>>>> Subject: Is Integrated Sound Adequate? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm planning to buy a new computer. With the rapid advancements in >>>>>>> motherboards and hardware generally I'm interested in people's >>>>>>> thoughts >>>>>>> about whether it's still better to buy a dedicated sound card or >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> now reached the stage where using integrated sound on the >>>>>>> motherboard >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> adequate? I bought my current PC in July 2008 so it is about six >>>>>>> years >>>>>>> old. I'm currently running a Creative sound card. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've never used integrated sound on the motherboard on my home PC >>>>>>> before. Also I don't need the most expensive sound card available >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> don't want it to be too basic either. One feature I would like is >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> ability to provide some type of virtual surround sound as I have >>>>>>> limited >>>>>>> space where my PC is located and only room for a two speaker system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I appreciate there is no right or wrong answer to this question but >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> thought this list would be a good place to ask because there are >>>>>>> bound >>>>>>> to be a lot of people who are a bit more fussy about audio quality >>>>>>> etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards Steve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus >>>> protection is active. >>>> http://www.avast.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > >
